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12181 punishment(was: Student Loans & Bankruptcies (was Re: creativefinancing) -- rank: 46

At 02:45 AM 4/26/01 +0000, justin wrote: >consider those who might commit crimes, but don't. Current studies support >the idea that most people obey the law because they think it's right rather >than because of fear of punishment. I think this implies a rather narrow sense ...

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Author:	Wojtek Sokolowski
Date:	Thu Apr 26 07:31:38 PDT 2001

12182 FC: EFF plans to help Seattle IMC fight gag order (fwd) -- rank: 46

... a Seattle journalist collective that is the target of a police probe and court-imposed gag order. On Saturday evening, FBI ...

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Author:	Guilherme C Roschke
Date:	Thu Apr 26 07:08:49 PDT 2001

12183 Baby Killers & Collateral Damage: Part 2 -- rank: 46

***** New York Times 25 April 2001 One Awful Night in Thanh Phong By GREGORY L. VISTICA Senator Bob Kerrey's hands trembled slightly as he began to read six pages of documents that had just been handed to him. It was late 1998; the papers were nearly 30 years old ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Wed Apr 25 22:55:38 PDT 2001

12184 Brit racism -- rank: 46

What was all that about? The prolonged debate is a problem for whites. Black people aren't really bothering to listen Special report: race issues in the UK Gary Younge Thursday April 26, 2001 The Guardian So we have come full circle. Not so long ago to get a national discussion ...

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Author:	Ian Murray
Date:	Wed Apr 25 20:47:06 PDT 2001

12185 ... fascism... -- rank: 46

At the Holocaust Museum in Washington, the quote is displayed, and attributed to Niemoller, but without the first line. Apparently the US govt and the American Jewish community doesn't mind if they come for the communists, big surprise. Of course, with respect to the Jews, it sort of undermines the ...

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Author:	Justin Schwartz
Date:	Wed Apr 25 15:10:15 PDT 2001

12186 [lbo-talk] Main Mumbai suspect pleads guilty -- rank: 46

... a hearing," Reuters news agency quoted Rakesh Maria, a senior police officer, as saying. Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam said: "We were not ...

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Author:	Sujeet Bhatt
Date:	Mon Jul 20 03:51:23 PDT 2009

12187 ... fascism... -- rank: 46

Excellent sentiment, but I doubt Niemoeller ever said it, given his politics. Several attempts to source the quote haven't worked. (A variant is ascribed to his second wife, Sibylle Sarah Niemoeller von Sell, but it seems as doubtful: "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist ...

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Author:	C. G. Estabrook
Date:	Wed Apr 25 15:04:46 PDT 2001

12188 [lbo-talk] Suspect Stirs Mumbai Court by Confessing -- rank: 46

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/world/asia/21india.html?_r=1&th&emc=th The New York Times Suspect Stirs Mumbai Court by Confessing By VIKAS BAJAJ and LYDIA POLGREEN Published: July 20, 2009 MUMBAI, India The sole surviving gunman of the deadly rampage in Mumbai unexpectedly confessed in ...

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Author:	Sujeet Bhatt
Date:	Tue Jul 21 03:22:30 PDT 2009

12189 [lbo-talk] Afghanistan -- rank: 46

Below are a series of links of combat footage in Afghanistan. 1) Here's Afghanistan from the valleys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_14oSfJUhs&feature=related 2) Here's Afghanistan from the mountains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hnXgrnlUQ&feature=channel 3)Here's the Brits in Helmand ...

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Author:	Chuck Grimes
Date:	Tue Jul 21 16:23:44 PDT 2009

12190 [lbo-talk] Kafka land -- rank: 46

Whoops. I just sent a link to something that I hadn't realized was from the RCP. The info is still not bad though. Here's something people might find more trustworthy: http://www.diggers.org/freecitynews/_disc1/00000052.htm Interview with Christian Parenti on the US Prison System [...] Jensen: Let ...

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Author:	Dennis Claxton
Date:	Wed Jul 22 11:52:38 PDT 2009

12191 QUEBEC CRACKPOTS -- rank: 46

Max Sawicky wrote: > > yeah but that was violence by the police, not > the movement. Chuckles is deluded by propaganda > of the ...

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Author:	Chuck0
Date:	Wed Apr 25 08:08:34 PDT 2001

12192 Chomsky's reply to Bogdan Denitch -- rank: 46

Date: 04/24/99 Bogdan Denitch writes in a message forwarded to the ZNet forum system, in reply to my comments there, that there are "a few problems with Noam's reply." I'll run through his criticisms in this reaction, again in the public forum system. (1) "To begin with ...

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Author:	C. G. Estabrook
Date:	Sun Apr 25 09:13:37 PDT 1999

12193 QUEBEC CRACKPOTS -- rank: 46

yeah but that was violence by the police, not the movement. Chuckles is deluded by propaganda of the ...

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Author:	Max Sawicky
Date:	Tue Apr 24 21:01:37 PDT 2001

12194 Charles' support for THESE laws -- rank: 46

Chaz wrote: >CB: We don't have the powers to hand over. > >Also,To win the working class to support this proposal will empower the working >class more, as it will have to become more conscious of the divisiveness of racism to >get behind it. we always have power to hand ...

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Author:	rc-am
Date:	Sat Apr 24 07:47:56 PDT 1999

12195 punishment (was: Student Loans & Bankruptcies (was Re: creative financing) -- rank: 46

>At 07:29 PM 4/22/01 -0500, Carrol wrote: >>Actully I've never given a thought to this question. And I presume any >>social order takes whatever steps are necessary, under given conditions, >>to protect itself. It is punishment, which is just a polite name for >>revenge, that I ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Tue Apr 24 15:33:28 PDT 2001