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136 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > > We can't operate on the only _fundamental_ assumption of our politics > most of the time, the world being complicated and all. > > but on this issue we can. It's not complicated at all. > > There are only two categories of people in the world: > > 1) Workers and their allies. > > 2) Capitalists and their allies. > > The immigrants are all workers. > > Nuf said. > > Carrol What about the disabled ...
Document Size: 5648
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Tue Apr 18 09:18:49 PDT 2006
137 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Wendy Lyon wrote: > >> I don't like it. That >> is my personal feeling and I am entitled to it. >> > > Of course you are but don't pretend it isn't xenophobia. By the way, > you live in LA, right? By your own logic shouldn't you be speaking > Spanish, if not one of the Native American languages of the Southwest > region? > Xenophobia is a fear or contempt for strangers. I do not have any fear or contempt for the immigrants ...
Document Size: 5489
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Tue Apr 18 09:13:19 PDT 2006
138 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: > > >> Did Douglas Massey think about disabled unemployment rate of 70%? >> I find that most sociologists completely leave out the impact of >> policy on the disabled population. >> > > So you're saying that immigrants steal jobs from native born people > with disabilities? This is certainly a fresh take on pitting the > oppressed against the oppressed. I thought you were a Marxis ...
Document Size: 6129
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 14:33:50 PDT 2006
139 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
The MediCal doctors do not get paid much. I think it was about $30 per visit, something ridiculously low and now it is lower. I don't have the exact numbers at my fingertips. MediCal generally negotiates for better rates on prescription drugs and most everything it will pay for. As I understand it the biggest problem is growth in the numbers of persons on MediCal and the lack of the state being willing to spend more to accommodate them while the feds cut back the entire Medicaid budget ...
Document Size: 8853
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 14:12:05 PDT 2006
140 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: > > >> Not in my neighborhood. They are middle age people. "On balance >> in contributing to the fisc" doesn't really mean anything to me. >> I see the consequences of an overburdened system all around here. >> The emergency rooms are overrun with non english speaking legals >> or illegals. The public health care system is shutting down in >> LA. Emergency rooms are ...
Document Size: 6256
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 13:58:20 PDT 2006
141 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:11 AM, ravi wrote: > > Here's a piece on another one in the hierarchy of oppressions: > > http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=75073 > [Richard Kim] > > => > => "Immigration reform needs to get in line behind the LGBT civil > rights > => movement, which has not yet realized all of its goals. Which is not > => to say that I don't recognize the plight of illegal immigrants. > I do. > => But I didn't break the la ...
Document Size: 7104
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 13:56:04 PDT 2006
142 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:54 AM, ravi wrote: > > Marta, > > your reasoning, and your choice of words, are disturbing. For > instance, > why the gratuitous addition of "non-English speaking"? And your > reference even to legal immigrants? Are you of the opinion that > they too > should be dealt with in some way? And as for your reasoning, it seems > immediately obvious to me that it can be recursively applied to > disabled > people and further on to othe ...
Document Size: 8277
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 13:39:15 PDT 2006
143 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: > > >> Not in my neighborhood. They are middle age people. "On balance >> in contributing to the fisc" doesn't really mean anything to me. >> I see the consequences of an overburdened system all around here. >> The emergency rooms are overrun with non english speaking legals >> or illegals. The public health care system is shutting down in >> LA. Emergency rooms are ...
Document Size: 6661
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 13:14:32 PDT 2006
144 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: > > >> The moral ground I see is that so many who come here wind up >> getting on government benefits. >> > > Actually they don't. Immigrants are young, and use few government > services. They pay taxes - including Social Security taxes, often > into phony accounts that are very unlikely ever to draw benefits. > Their use of Medicaid is surprisingly small - a few hundred million > ...
Document Size: 6272
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 10:52:53 PDT 2006
145 [lbo-talk] The Gospel of Judas - Wrong Version? -- rank: 1000
I did not realize there was such a thing as secular Jewish entity. I'd be interested in knowing how to contact them. What part of LA, for instance, are they located? The Unitarians get out a ramp so that I can access the speaker/ minister/whoever happens to be conducting service platform. There is going to be an animal day ceremony and since I always take my service dog Sam I have been asked to light the chalice. They will have the ramps up so that Sam and I can get on the platform. Mar ...
Document Size: 7277
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 10:24:36 PDT 2006
146 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000
On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > I also said in this segment that it would be very difficult to > mount a principled argument for closing the borders. One argument > from principle would be a desire to preserve some notion of > cultural purity - an odious principle, but still a principle. The > "dean of feminist economists," Barbara Bergmann, has argued for > putting up a fence around the first world because the teeming > hordes threaten femi ...
Document Size: 7025
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 10:07:17 PDT 2006
147 [lbo-talk] The Gospel of Judas - Wrong Version? -- rank: 1000
I go to the one in Studio City in LA> The reason is mainly because they are free of dogma and they are some very decent people to have as an extended family. This is impossible to find in LA in any other form. Marta On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:45 PM, joanna wrote: > The ones I've met in the bay area are pretty cool. > > Joanna > > Dennis Perrin wrote: >> "A born again christian once tole me a unitarian joke: >> >> "'A unitarian is some one who believ ...
Document Size: 6393
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 09:35:49 PDT 2006
148 [lbo-talk] Re: [Fwd: [bluegreenearth] Fan Who Called Dylan 'Judas'Breaks 33 Years of Silence -- rank: 1000
On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Michael Pugliese wrote: > > >> Oy vey, Dylan's garbage, >> http://acidtrip.com/garbage1.gif >> Little Red Schoolhouse, eh! >> > > Damn, I think Prince Station, where Bob had his PO Box, is now the > Apple Store. > > Doug I think Dylan owns part of a temple in Santa Monica, with a restaurant next to it. I've been meaning to find out more and go there. Anybody heard this? Marta ------------ ...
Document Size: 5864
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Mon Apr 17 09:33:48 PDT 2006
149 [lbo-talk] WANTED Alfonso Jackson -- rank: 1000
For Immediate Release: March 22, 2006 contact: Bob Kafka 512-431-4085 Janine Bertram 503-504-9787 http://www.adapt.org/ ADAPT Launches Campaign for Accessible, Affordable, Integrated Housing Targets Alfonso Jackson, Secretary of HUD Nashville- Over 400 ADAPT members ended a day of non-violent civil disobedience at the Nashville Office of the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Protesters blocked the entrance of the building chanting and expected a long stay after requesting a meetin ...
Document Size: 7476
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Tue Apr 11 18:36:44 PDT 2006
150 [lbo-talk] happiness pays? -- rank: 1000
On Apr 1, 2006, at 7:09 PM, John Adams wrote: > On Apr 1, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Marta Russell wrote: > > >> That surprises the hell out of me. >> > > As well it should--I was indulging myself in an April Fool's lie. > (I'm pretty sure it's really Patrick Henry or Thomas Paine or one > of those guys--probably Paine.) It just sort of reminded me, in the > start, of Goldwater's "Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no > vice" (my slogan being "Vic ...
Document Size: 5340
Author: Marta Russell
Date: Sun Apr 2 10:03:42 PDT 2006
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