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106 [lbo-talk][Shiavo and Eastwood [was Immigration and Disability] -- rank: 1000

Hi Anne, While you are on the list it would be nice for you to share your views about Terri Schiavo and Clint Eastwood's film, "Million Dollar Baby." best, Marta On Apr 29, 2006, at 10:32 AM, anniedigit at mindspring.com wrote: > I have not been part of this list in the past; I joined > specifically so that I could respond to Marta Russell's comments > about disability and immigration, which were forwarded to me by a > disabled comrade, and which I found deeply distur ...

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Date:	Mon May 1 09:18:11 PDT 2006

107 [lbo-talk][Shiavo and Eastwood [was Immigration and Disability] -- rank: 1000

Hi Anne, While you are on the list it would be nice for you to share your views about Terri Schiavo and Clint Eastwood's film, "Million Dollar Baby." best, Marta On Apr 29, 2006, at 10:32 AM, anniedigit at mindspring.com wrote: > I have not been part of this list in the past; I joined > specifically so that I could respond to Marta Russell's comments > about disability and immigration, which were forwarded to me by a > disabled comrade, and which I found deeply distur ...

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108 [lbo-talk] Re: Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:01 AM, BklynMagus wrote: > Marta quotes David Pfieffer: > > >> To use Berg's examples, capitalist and workers, corporations >> > and the public, the imperialists and the dispossessed, and > persons in and out of the power structure all tend to loathe > people with disabilities and want them out of the way. > > My brother is disabled and I do not think a single member of > my family wanted him out of the way. In fact, my mother lived ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 20 21:51:34 PDT 2006

109 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >> >> >> What is so strange about it? People often dig in their heels when >> they say >> something they did not really mean, just to vent their >> frustrations or >> because they did not think it through, and then they are accused >> by other of >> being a bad person - so they become more and more defensive. My >> ex had that >> disposition, so I am ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 20 21:42:00 PDT 2006

110 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:17 PM, jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> > > If Marta had come out saying that she felt that disability issues > were treated as issues of convenience > rather than the life and death struggles that they just as > frequently are NO ONE would have said one > negative thing to her. I doubt it John. You all love a scapegoat just like the rest. > > Instead she came out saying that Mexicans are taking benefits that > she needs and she deserves ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 20 17:42:59 PDT 2006

111 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Thank you, thank you, thank you. and love, love, love, Marta On Apr 20, 2006, at 1:36 PM, info at pulpculture.org wrote: > At 04:06 PM 4/20/2006, jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net wrote: > > >> So it's OK with you if I lash out against gays because this list >> seldom, if ever, tackles Native American >> issues? I hope not. >> > > I stopped reading there John. It was patently evident that I > disagreed with marta and not you or anyone else who argued with > M ...

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112 [lbo-talk] LBO keywords HA! -- rank: 1000

If I weren't on the list disability would probably not be such a grand total. Before I joined the list years and years ago, were there that many disability postings then? Marta On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > For a "male-dominated" list that allegedly doesn't give a fuck > about disability, those aren't really bad numbers. We could always > do better, but I'm not about to hang my head in shame. > > Doug > > info at pulpculture.org wrote: > ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 20 17:15:57 PDT 2006

113 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Today I must spend on the toxic mold situation in this condo. The HOA last night offered me a handyman who knows nothing about mold remediation and is not a licensed contractor. I can't engage with you now. I would suggest reading an essay written by David Pfeiffer, who was a professor and friend of mine, in the book called "Teamsters and Turtles: U.S. Progressive Political Movements in the 21st Century" ed. John Berg <> Conclusion In the introduction to this volume John ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 20 09:33:21 PDT 2006

114 [lbo-talk] Re: Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:55 PM, John Adams wrote: > > This is the nub of it, isn't it? It's Marta's belief in the truth > of the first statement--and she's got a point--that activates the > sentiments of the second statement. > > That doesn't make it right--that second statement, it's wrong, it's > xenophobic, it's counter-productive--but when the left appears to > bypass one group which deserves our support in order to support > another, it's understandable when members ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 19 16:56:32 PDT 2006

115 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 4:05 PM, jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > So now Marta is sharing thought space with far right-wing racists > like Cosman? That's rich. > Quoting this nut pretty much blows away most of the credibility you > worked to earn. > Maybe you'll want to post a few anti-immigration blurbs from FOX > News later? > > Of course maybe I'm being too hard on Cosman just because she > appears at "The Defense of Our Nation > Begins at Our Border ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 19 16:16:48 PDT 2006

116 [lbo-talk] Immigrants bringing in disease (was re: Dean Baker and Immigration) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:03 PM, B. wrote: > > Marta Russell wrote: > > "The medical literature reports that many undocumented > immigrants sequester within their bodies infectious > and fatal diseases that long ago were fought and > eliminated by American medicine Now illegals may carry > drug-resistant strains of tuberculosis, malaria, > polio, leprosy, plague, dengue fever and Chagas > disease." > I did not write that. It was in an article I posted. A ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 19 15:54:19 PDT 2006

117 [lbo-talk] Re: Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:01 PM, BklynMagus wrote: > > > As always, I recommend applying Occam's Razor -- the simplest answer > to the problem is the best: increase funding to services. The more > convoluted approach of pitting various groups against one another > achieves > nothing. > That is obviously the answer but it isn't happening, in fact the opposite is happening. There are some on this list who may think that the fact that things are getting so bad is good because ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 19 15:51:51 PDT 2006

118 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: > > >>> What do you think about this: >>> A study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform >>> estimated that in 2004 the annual uncompensated cost of medical >>> care for illegal immigrants in California was $1.4 billion. >>> >> >> The most recent data for California health expenditures <http:// >> www.cms.hhs.gov/NationalHealthExpendData/dow ...

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119 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: > > >> > > The most recent data for California health expenditures <http:// > www.cms.hhs.gov/NationalHealthExpendData/downloads/ > nhestatehealthaccountstables.pdf> was $126 billion in 2000. If > that's increased in line with national expenditures, that was > probably about $170 billion in 2004. So, $1.4 billion is 0.8% of > the total. Big damn deal, eh? Nonchalance is left to the h ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 19 15:31:59 PDT 2006

120 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Miles Jackson wrote: > Marta, > > I think the point many of us are trying to make (some more > tactfully than others) are that the problems you point out about > SSI and health care have little or nothing to do with immigration. > Yes, they are serious problems, and yes, we should solve them. > However, even with the harshest immigration policies--boot 'em all > out, no social services--all the problems you identify will persist > for disa ...

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