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41566 Michael Moore Responds -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >Doug, my question is how would Michael Moore giving that "gang of >fatheads" anti-capitalist firebreathing help the movement to overthrow >capitalism ? No. You tweak them. If you harangue them, they won't listen. If you tweak them right, they'll squirm and listen. >Surely, this is a superman image of the proletarian movie >director/intellectual Moore. He tells a few jokes to these people while >they are a little drunk and they are ready to give ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 17:34:27 PDT 1998

41567 the dork factor -- rank: 1000

Jon Fine wrote: >What, pray tell, is the official LBO election model? One that predicts the share of the popular vote going to the incumbent & challenging parties, based on the Gallup presidential approval rating and the year-to-year change in real disposable income per capita in the second quarter of the election year. Right 11 of the last 13 times. I stole the idea from the academic poli sci literature - from an article called, if I'm remembering right, "Why are US Presidential Ele ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 15:50:34 PDT 1998

41568 Wellstone -- rank: 1000

Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: >I'm not sure that one can be >too dorky to get the chance at a serious run. Gerald Ford. Richard Nixon, >Michael Dukakis. World class dorks, all. Nixon was almost ruined by the televised 1960 debate - a Nixon today couldn't make it on TV. Ford lost (even though the official LBO election model, right 11 of the last 13 times, forecast that he should have won). Dukakis lost, a laughinstock. Gore is a dork, but he's got money & incumbency. The odds are stack ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 14:59:38 PDT 1998

41569 Wellstone -- rank: 1000

My wife had Paul Wellstone as a political science teacher at Carleton College in the early 1970s. It was one of those hippie grade yourself courses with virtually no content. She says he could never be a serious candidate because he's too much of a dork. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 14:09:16 PDT 1998

41570 Michael Moore Responds -- rank: 1000

MMFlint at aol.com wrote: >Of course it's capitalism. But you told the Fortune audience that the problem was GM's loss of market share - because of a braindead design staff, all of whom you would have fired along with lots of middle managers. If ever an audience deserved a little anticapitalist firebreathing, it was that gang of fatheads. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 13:31:05 PDT 1998

41571 Michael Moore Responds -- rank: 1000

Michael Moore wrote: >I have admired Doug for many years, used his writings as a reference point and >suggested to others that they pay attention to his important work. So it was >kind of sad to read him say that my politics are "underdeveloped...and ad >hoc," that my idea that the auto companies be forced to develop mass transit >systems was "surreal," and that my quote from the Bible about the rich not >getting into heaven apparently did not include my (r ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 11:15:16 PDT 1998

41572 AFL-CIO/DP? -- rank: 1000

Rakesh Bhandari wrote: > I was wondering whether Palley's post-Keynesian ideas are what Max, Brad, >Nathan here think the left should be organizing to implement and whether >they think find it realistic that such policy could indeed be implemented. >From the back cover, I noted that William Greider, James Galbraith >(postKeynesian economist), Michael Hout (an author of the Bell Curve >Critique done by the Berkeley Sociology Dept) and others are quite high >about Palley's id ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 27 09:04:54 PDT 1998

41573 Identity politics -- rank: 1000

Brad De Long wrote [quoting Max Sawicky]: >>My main point was that sympathy for >>the poor, Third World or domestic, >>can be and often is less radical >>and more congenial to the status >>quo than a pro-labor stance. The >>reverse seems less true, but PEN-L >>and LBO-Talk are not dominated by the >>latter phenomenon. >> > >I would agree that it does seem easier to find people around San Francisco >who are sympathetic with those wor ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue May 26 17:16:28 PDT 1998

41574 Identity politics -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >Tell me why a lot of the politics of long-run >ecological catastrophe, indigenous peoples, >race/gender/sexual orientation discrimination >doesn't reduce to class-indifferent solutions >(if not worse) How do you make this reduction? Why are they class-indifferent? What do you mean by "class" anyway? If you're talking about ownership and control of property and labor, then sex and race are on the scene from the first. It wasn't all that long ago that w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue May 26 12:10:27 PDT 1998

41575 more Rorty -- rank: 1000

Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: >Umm...He's taken seriously, but strongly disliked, by philosophers, but >not for stuff like this. Why then? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 25 10:32:30 PDT 1998

41576 supplement -- rank: 1000

Trond Andresen wrote: >.. who I find to be nearly as difficult to read as the French pomo gurus >themselves. So I gave up. Having a science/technology background, I get much >more out of Noam Chomsky's or Alan Sokal's critical writings on these issues. >For Sokal, see > >http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/index.html > >Is their stuff to simplicistic for the literature/philosphy crowd? I'm not part of that crowd, but it's too simplistic for me - especially since Soka ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 25 10:09:12 PDT 1998

41577 more Rorty -- rank: 1000

God, this is awful. This may be the worst paragraph I've read all month: "To bring this about, it would help if American leftists stopped asking whether or not Walter Reuther's attempt to bourgeoisify the auto workers was objectivly reactionary. It would also help if they emphasized the similarities rather than the differences between Malcolm X and Bayard Rustin, between Susan B. Anthony and Emma Goldman, between Catharine MacKinnon and Judith Bulter. The sectarian divisions which plagued M ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 25 10:01:32 PDT 1998

41578 queers -- rank: 1000

Maria Gilmore wrote: >But the wall progressives keep >slamming into is the wall of class, class which cuts across race, gender and >sexual orientation. The class situation in this society isn't getting better, >it's getting much worse. I know, we all know that...or do we? Depends on >where you live and what job you have and the kind of money you make...which is >what I think people like Moore and maybe Alterman are trying to point out. What's exasperating to me is that Moore ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 25 09:45:16 PDT 1998

41579 Identity politics -- rank: 1000

Les Schaffer wrote: >Say, is it REALLY TRUE that Cockburn had his page allotment halved for >dubious reasons?. The judgment of whether the reasons were dubious is yours, but the editors said they couldn't justify Cockburn having 2 pages when all the other columnists had one. His former second page was given over to Patricia Williams. In the letter announcing the cutback, Katrina vanden Heuvel and Victor Navasky urged Cockburn to stop attacking his Nation colleagues, and to stop attacking & ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 25 09:14:36 PDT 1998

41580 rich get richer -- rank: 1000

[This multiply forwarded post bounced because its header was too long.] May 17, 1998 The Toronto Star By Dalton Camp Surprise: Rich getting richer, poor poorer .... snip ........ In a new book coming soon to bookstores near you, James Laxer writes about The (Penguin) being waged now between the two remaining classes in society - a dominant class and a dominated one. StatsCan published last year a study showing that 1996 average incomes of the poorest fifth of Canadian families fell by more t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun May 24 18:21:35 PDT 1998