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76 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Chuck Grimes <cgrimes at rawbw.com> wrote: > I spent some time on an essay > called, `1968'. It took the Adorno line about the student movements as > fascist and authoritarian. This odd characterization was common back > then. It was the kind of thing ...

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Author:	Bhaskar Sunkara
Date:	Fri Apr 9 18:04:48 PDT 2010

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... 10, 2010 3:59:27 AM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why I was ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 18:03:43 PDT 2010

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On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:58 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > The decisive factor - and I mean the decisive factor - in > contemporary political life is indeed the defeat of the left. Really, James, who doesn't know that?

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 18:01:34 PDT 2010

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On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > To echo James Heartfield (which I > rarely do) and Doug, just what the fuck does `emancipatory' mean? The Platypuses ask lots of questions, but not that one. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 18:00:31 PDT 2010

80 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Richard Seymour wrote: > inserting not only the Taliban but also Hamas, Hezbollah and the > Islamic Republic of Iran on top of it all into this narrative of > "conspiracy". I don't know from "conspiracy," but is anyone prepared to deny that all these ...

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Author:	Shane Mage
Date:	Fri Apr 9 17:41:58 PDT 2010

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I was operating from memory, which I think is clear. I didn't misquote, because I didn't quote, but paraphrased Ali. I was not speaking as a journalist, but recalling an interview I conducted, and which is well documented. I just listened to the audio recording, and I stand by ...

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Author:	Christopher Cutrone
Date:	Fri Apr 9 16:59:27 PDT 2010

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I tend to agree that Tariq Ali is a good man and oughtn't be traduced. But Chris Cutrone is teaching us an important lesson that ought to be heard. The decisive factor - and I mean the decisive factor - in contemporary political life is indeed the defeat of the left. Left ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 9 16:58:09 PDT 2010

83 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 812

I might be wrong, but I have the impression that the revolutionary monotreme* means that decolonialization did not "pull mankind into socialism" or something like that, which is true, and if pulling mankind into socialism is your criterion for success then it was a failure, and if you think that economic ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 16:09:26 PDT 2010

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... a lot of holier than thou rattling around in the Platypus head. I did a few reads of what Platypus has up. I spent some time on an essay called ...

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Author:	Chuck Grimes
Date:	Fri Apr 9 16:04:54 PDT 2010

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My history here is hazy, but didn't they join under the assumption that secession was an option?  ----- Original Message ---- From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> There was a process of admission to the union. The Southern states joined freely by ratifying the constitution and signing on the dotted line ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 15:38:21 PDT 2010

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... 10, 2010 1:30:25 AM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why I was ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 15:37:08 PDT 2010

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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara <bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com>wrote: I was just commenting on the those who were looking at the Civil War through > the same paradigm as the post-World War II period (use of the word > "imperialism" to describe "Northern aggression ...

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Author:	Joseph Catron
Date:	Fri Apr 9 15:08:16 PDT 2010

88 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > There was a process of admission to the union. The Southern states joined > freely by ratifying the constitution and signing on the dotted line. They > even supplied quite a few of our first presidents. (Of ...

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Author:	Andy
Date:	Fri Apr 9 14:46:00 PDT 2010

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On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > You fellows would be more convincing if you would would explain > exactly what > these differences are. Simply alleging "there is a difference" barely > improves on a guessing game. > > Doug, I'm not sure that exempting alleged nation-states from an ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 14:39:45 PDT 2010

90 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

I was just commenting on the those who were looking at the Civil War through the same paradigm as the post-World War II period (use of the word "imperialism" to describe "Northern aggression", etc). I think the Union's triumph and radical reconstruction was the most revolutionary period in American ...

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Author:	Bhaskar Sunkara
Date:	Fri Apr 9 14:30:25 PDT 2010