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121 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 904

... responding to Chris *Maisano who isn't a member of Platypus (we gladly claim him as one of our own in ... his 2nd message on this list, where he mentions that Platypus is about asking questions rather than taking positions. All these ...

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Author:	Bhaskar Sunkara
Date:	Fri Apr 9 09:09:12 PDT 2010

122 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On 09/04/2010 16:14, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > He said that British special forces were captured in "native" clothing with a bomb in their car. This obviously referred to special forces who were indeed caught with various weapons and explosives, while wearing the clothing of Mahdi militias. > He inferred from ...

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Author:	Richard Seymour
Date:	Fri Apr 9 09:04:37 PDT 2010

123 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

JAMES Heartfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris C.: "More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" movements have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever" ^^^^^ Is that something of an overstatement? Having visited both the South Africa and the West Bank and Gaza, I was very impressed with what people had done there ...

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Author:	c b
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:58:40 PDT 2010

124 [lbo-talk] Mitchel's interview with two Platypus organizers -- rank: 773

Doug Henwood I'd be happy to do that - Bhaskar, you know 'em. Could you invite one or two? But they've written thousands of words of their own stuff, and I still don't get the argument. ^^^^^^^^^ CB: Don't all texts have mulitple meanings ?

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Author:	c b
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:46:49 PDT 2010

125 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > I publicly interviewed Tariq Ali during the worst period of the Iraq > occupation, and he lied through his teeth, saying that the sectarian- > communalist violence in Iraq, i.e., of the mosque and marketplace > bombings, was not being perpetrated by ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:37:56 PDT 2010

126 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Christopher Cutrone <ccutrone at speedsite.com>wrote: > More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" movements > have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever. > Really? Nothing? Decolonization was just epiphenomenal?

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Author:	Matthias Wasser
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:31:13 PDT 2010

127 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 904

I'll admit to having been slightly interested in this project a few weeks ago. One of the editors showed up at a panel I was on at the Cultural Studies Association conference in Berkley. The panel was on Marxism and Cultural Studies and the editor (I forget his name) handed ...

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Author:	Sean Andrews
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:24:18 PDT 2010

128 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 844

... decentralized, > clan-based rule and warlordism. I'd say if Platypus believes this, they are a pretty nasty piece of work ... be proud! This whole discussion has made me wish that Platypus's and Heartfield's parents had bought them a copy ...

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Author:	Eric Beck
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:16:58 PDT 2010

129 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 812

I will not be subject to gas-lighting (i.e., "Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?") by Tariq Ali. He said that British special forces were captured in "native" clothing with a bomb in their car. He inferred from this that the sectarian bombings were being ...

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Author:	Christopher Cutrone
Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:14:47 PDT 2010

130 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > publicly interviewed Tariq Ali during the worst period of the Iraq > occupation, and he lied through his teeth, saying that the sectarian- > communalist violence in Iraq, i.e., of the mosque and marketplace > bombings, was not being perpetrated by the ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:42:20 PDT 2010

131 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:01 AM, JAMES Heartfield wrote: > Chris C.: > > "More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" > movements > have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever" > > Is that something of an overstatement? Having visited both the South > Africa > and the West Bank and Gaza, I ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:13:12 PDT 2010

132 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 773

Chris C.: "More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" movements have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever" Is that something of an overstatement? Having visited both the South Africa and the West Bank and Gaza, I was very impressed with what people had done there in straitened ...

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Author:	JAMES Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:01:18 PDT 2010

133 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 954

A strategic priority must be made of building a Left in the core countries of global capital, i.e., in the U.S., Europe, Japan, et al. More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" movements have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever. What this means, simply, is ...

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Author:	Christopher Cutrone
Date:	Fri Apr 9 06:38:49 PDT 2010

134 [lbo-talk] US Civil War (was Platypus etc) -- rank: 773

Come to think of it, German unification and its effects as described by Engels would have been hugely progressive. As Yugoslavs are backward peoples destined to be snuffed out by the inexorable wave of progress brought by the superior Germans, there would have been no Yugolavs, hence no Yugoslavia, and hence ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 02:12:28 PDT 2010

135 [lbo-talk] US Civil War (was Platypus etc) -- rank: 773

Imperial Russia is still a power in Europe. It just has a different name and socioeconomic system. And Germany in the sense in which someone in the 1800s e.g. Marx would have understood the term is not united. Leaving out Austria, lots of parts of it are in Poland and ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Fri Apr 9 00:33:27 PDT 2010