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556 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

>>> cbrown at michiganlegal.org 05/08/06 12:22 PM >>> That democracy is a contradiction of democracy and dictatorship jumps out at one in the classical Marxist writings on same. Marx and Engels anticipate real democracy as the working classes as the ruling class,and that ruling is not anticipated ...

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Author:	Michael Hoover
Date:	Wed May 10 12:16:39 PDT 2006

557 [lbo-talk] Stalin, Democrat -- rank: 496

Mickael Pollack asked me to continue translating Kara-Murza's book, so here goes. I'm doing this quickly at an internet cafe and I ain't gonna spellcheck. >> The ideological campaign of Perestroika made thinnking about the repressions more difficult, using an overly simplifoed model of the phenomenon. Thus, much ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Wed May 10 08:51:22 PDT 2006

558 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

On 5/8/06, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > --- Jerry Monaco <monacojerry at gmail.com> wrote: > To talk about this in terms of democracy is to stretch > the concept of > democracy (a very loose notion anyway) beyond > comprehension. > > --- > > I think part of the issue is a translational one. The ...

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Author:	Jerry Monaco
Date:	Mon May 8 13:59:27 PDT 2006

559 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

--- Jerry Monaco <monacojerry at gmail.com> wrote: To talk about this in terms of democracy is to stretch the concept of democracy (a very loose notion anyway) beyond comprehension. --- I think part of the issue is a translational one. The Russian word "demokratiya" that I translated as "democracy" has somewhat ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Mon May 8 11:56:51 PDT 2006

560 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

That democracy is a contradiction of democracy and dictatorship jumps out at one in the classical Marxist writings on same. Marx and Engels anticipate real democracy as the working classes as the ruling class,and that ruling is not anticipated to be all nice. For Marx, the _dictatorship_ of the proletariat ...

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Author:	Charles Brown
Date:	Mon May 8 09:22:58 PDT 2006

561 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

'integument' I don't understand this word. Am I a peasant? Julian Gollop. [WS:] http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm Wojtek

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Author:	Wojtek Sokolowski
Date:	Mon May 8 09:02:12 PDT 2006

562 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

OK, Michael Pollack asked me to translate more of Kara-Murza's book, so I did. (Animal husbandry terms -- yikes!) This is the text immediately following the two paragraphs I've already translated. In 2000 the newspaper Duel published excerpts from the very instructive memoirs of the lawyer B.G. Menshagin ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Mon May 8 08:40:35 PDT 2006

563 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Chris Doss wrote: >the Brezhnev era The Golden Age of the Soviet working class, as I believe Alexander Cockburn called it. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon May 8 05:45:30 PDT 2006

564 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Jim Devine wrote: >this is the "democracy" of scape-goating. It's also a matter of the >Party leadership giving little bits of power to its underlings to >repress and to loot. Didn't the peasants really want to kill the kulaks? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun May 7 14:43:35 PDT 2006

565 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Chris Doss quoted: > "A very important feature of the "Stalinist > repressions" consists in that the actions of the > government were met with mass support, which it would > have been impossible to either organize or imitate. It > would also have been impossible to carry out such > repressions if the personnel of the ...

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Author:	Jim Devine
Date:	Sun May 7 14:19:45 PDT 2006

566 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Max Sawicky wrote: > If you compare China to India, as others have done > in the past, you can start a good argument over models > of development. But in the case of the Asian tigers > there is no economic argument, nor any in terms of > democratic advantages to the PRC. With the ...

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Author:	Henry C.K. Liu
Date:	Thu Jun 10 11:56:14 PDT 1999

567 [lbo-talk] Re: Reagan's conservatism -- rank: 496

... American Western storybook. The storybook of the >human race. Why Stalin loved Tarzan and wanted John Wayne shot ... Stalin inherited Goebbels's movie library after the war; he loved ... Westerns with Spencer Tracy and Clark Gable were also favourites. Stalin the solitary, pitiless and Messianic egocentric seemed to associate himself ... John Ford's work - and John Wayne. Khrushchev recalled how Stalin would ideologically criticise cowboy movies - and

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Author:	Carl Remick
Date:	Wed Jun 9 07:02:41 PDT 2004

568 [lbo-talk] BDL on Sweezy -- rank: 496

... technical economics by reading that notable work of J.V. Stalin, _Economic Problems of Socialism_ is a historical fact. --- You could ... say it, but it wouldn't mean squat. Sweezy used Stalin's writings on economics for inspiration. Big fucking deal. The USSR under Stalin had 300% GDP growth, even including the wartime loss of ... I guess being in bed with the economic policies of Stalin is oh-so-much-worse that being in bed with ... Narodov, and got started sooner too. What do you know, Stalin's retrospective approval rating is about 20 times as high as Yeltsin's. Wait, I forget, in the West, Stalin = evil. Anybody associated with Stalin was evil too. Stalin ...

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Author:	" Chris Doss "
Date:	Mon Mar 1 00:59:32 PST 2004

569 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Charles Brown wrote: >Charles: Interesting your mention of the concept of "secret police" . I >was thinking recently about this standard concept from the Cold War era. >Communist countries have secret police and capitalist countries don't , is >the notion one gets from U.S. big brother. Here are two common sense ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jun 10 12:08:55 PDT 1999

570 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Brett Knowlton wrote: >The thrust of Jabob's post was not to say that Kerensky would have brought >utopia to Russia, but that the communist regimes in Russia and China should >not be viewed as examples of the type of society we are trying to achieve - No argument from me on ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jun 10 12:19:04 PDT 1999