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391 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

You could, but liberal means something quite different in those contexts. It has a particular meaning when used before the word democrat. Just like "social" means something quite specific when followed by democrat. But keep dancing :) Travis martin wrote: > On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Travis Fast wrote: > >> So ...

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Author:	Travis Fast
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:25:20 PST 2005

392 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Doug Henwood wrote: > andie nachgeborenen wrote: > > >I don't really want to get into the boring (here) > >issue of Was The USSR a Good Thing. > > We've already solved that one with the lbo-talk poll: > > Russian revolution - a good thing? > > Yes 46 74.2% > No 8 12.9% > Too soon ...

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Author:	J. Tyler
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:30:39 PST 2005

393 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Brett Knowlton wrote: > I didn't mean to imply that 1917 Russia should be a model for the US today, > or vice versa. But libertarian socialism can serve as a model, or at least > a point of comparison, for any society. It is unfair to compare a theoretical model of libertarian ...

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Author:	Sam Pawlett
Date:	Sat Jun 12 08:55:22 PDT 1999

394 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Sorry, I am way over the posting limit, but: What difference does it make what Putin said in the 80s and 90s? What is important is what he has done and said in power. Putin is the most accidential leader of our time. He is a former KGB functionary and Bush ...

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Author:	Peter Lavelle
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:32:54 PST 2005

395 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > That's what he says now. What was he saying when he > was in the KGB? I assume that he said one thing in public and another thing in private. The KGB is commonly believed to have been the least ideological branch of ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:37:20 PST 2005

396 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Unlike a lot of my comrades, I'm not hostile to Putin - I think he's kept Russia from going down the drain. But his retrospective judgment on the USSR now isn't a very reliable guide to much of anything. Had the USSR stayed together, I'm sure he'd ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:40:12 PST 2005

397 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Sam, I agree with you up to a point. No existing country/gov't/society will be perfect. And I have nothing against analyzing the Soviet (or other communist countries past and present) experience - recognizing what they did well and what they did poorly and trying to learn from it. My ...

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Author:	Brett Knowlton
Date:	Mon Jun 14 10:42:20 PDT 1999

398 "Liberal" (Was Re: [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat) -- rank: 496

Well, in Anglo-American philosophy "liberal" means "supports individual rights," and includes everyone from Nozick on the right to Rawls in the center to me in the center left to Rodney Peffer on the Marxist left. In American political discourse "liberal" means supports abortion rights, environmental regulation, more social programs as ...

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Author:	andie nachgeborenen
Date:	Sun Dec 4 15:29:32 PST 2005

399 "Liberal" (Re: [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat) -- rank: 496

> > > I do not know how anyone who calls themselves a > liberal democrat can > refuse to include in their definition of Liberal > Democracy some nod to > the necessity of private property sitting alongside > the formal equality > of universal suffrage. So sue me. Liberalism in my sense is a political, not an ...

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Author:	andie nachgeborenen
Date:	Sun Dec 4 15:36:48 PST 2005

400 Comparing the Clinton regime to the Stalin regime -- rank: 496

Brett Knowlton wrote: > The Soviet Union was ruled by a priviledged elite. This statement can be misleading. Every government is ruled by a privileged elite. The telling characteristic is whether the rulers became rulers because they are of the privileged elite, or they are from the masses and their privileged elitism ...

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Author:	Henry C.K. Liu
Date:	Mon Jun 14 11:25:25 PDT 1999

401 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > Unlike a lot of my comrades, I'm not hostile to > Putin - I think he's > kept Russia from going down the drain. Not a small historical accomplishment, that. People forget (or pretend to forget) the condition Russia was in in 1999. That ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Mon Dec 5 09:07:04 PST 2005

402 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Chris Doss wrote: >--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Unlike a lot of my comrades, I'm not hostile to >> Putin - I think he's >> kept Russia from going down the drain. > >Not a small historical accomplishment, that. People >forget (or pretend to forget) the condition Russia was >in in ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Dec 5 10:54:27 PST 2005

403 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Well tell the the average American leftist that Pootey-Poot is the only person keeping a very really and dangerous "brown" agenda at bay..... Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: Chris Doss wrote: >--- Doug Henwood wrote: > >> Unlike a lot of my comrades, I'm not hostile to >> Putin - I think ...

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Author:	Peter Lavelle
Date:	Mon Dec 5 11:07:00 PST 2005

404 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Doug Henwood wrote: > > > Try saying a kind word about Pootey-Poot to your average American > leftist and they'll look at you like you're a monster. "Average American Leftist"????? I've never met one. This is sillier than "average post-modernist" or "average baseball fan." Carrol

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Author:	Carrol Cox
Date:	Mon Dec 5 13:33:41 PST 2005

405 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> >> Try saying a kind word about Pootey-Poot to your average American >> leftist and they'll look at you like you're a monster. > >"Average American Leftist"????? I've never met one. This is sillier than >"average post-modernist" or "average baseball fan." Gosh, I ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Dec 5 13:54:31 PST 2005