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376 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

andie nachgeborenen How else would you describe a secret policeman, Charles? ^^^ CB: If he's on the side of the vast majority of people on earth , I wouldn't call him undemocratic or evil, andie ? What do you mean by democratic ?

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Author:	Charles Brown
Date:	Sun Dec 4 10:51:12 PST 2005

377 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Peter Lavelle untimely thoughts And you, Charlie Brown demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about - par for the course and in your usual (il-)informed mode..... ^^^^^ CB: Sez who ? :>)

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Author:	Charles Brown
Date:	Sun Dec 4 10:55:54 PST 2005

378 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Putin's job was gathering intelligence in West Germany. He wasn't a secret policeman. I assume he thought of himself as a patriotic Soviet citizen protecting his country from the West. He says he was first drawn to the KGB by watching the movie "Sword and Shield" as a child ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:07:23 PST 2005

379 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

I think Charles was making a joke... --- Charles Brown <cbrown at michiganlegal.org> wrote: > Peter Lavelle untimely thoughts > > And you, Charlie Brown demonstrate that you have > no idea what you are > talking about - par for the course and in your > usual (il-)informed > mode..... > > ^^^^^ > > CB: Sez who ? :>) > > > > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:09:39 PST 2005

380 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Putin is on the record saying: "the outrageous price our country and people had to paid for that Bolshevist experiment" or calls communism a "road to a blind alley." Do your home work Charlie Brown, it is all part of the record. If you are too lazy to look, I'll ...

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Author:	Peter Lavelle
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:14:15 PST 2005

381 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

maybe, I find his postings a joke..... Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote: I think Charles was making a joke... --- Charles Brown wrote: > Peter Lavelle untimely thoughts > > And you, Charlie Brown demonstrate that you have > no idea what you are > talking about - par for the course and in your > usual ...

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Author:	Peter Lavelle
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:15:24 PST 2005

382 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Putin is on the record saying: "the outrageous price our country and people had to paid for that Bolshevist experiment" or calls communism a "road to a blind alley." Do your home work Charlie Brown, it is all part of the record. If you are too lazy to look, I'll ...

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Author:	Charles Brown
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:23:15 PST 2005

383 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Sorry, Chris. A GRU (military intelligence) agent could get away with saying, I was a patriotic spy. A KGB agent was a secret policemen, even if he ism't specifically employed to repress dissenters. --- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote: > Putin's job was gathering intelligence in West > Germany. He ...

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Author:	andie nachgeborenen
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:26:00 PST 2005

384 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Putin's job was intelligence gathering. He wasn't repressing anybody. (When was he sent to Germany anyway? I think it was early Gorby time.) Having been in the KGB does not make you evil. My girlfriend's dad was in the KGB. A good friend of mine's dad and ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:38:30 PST 2005

385 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

andie nachgeborenen _ -cli[p- And I don't understand how anyone who really think of himself as a Marxist could think a secrety policdeman could be democratic period. ^^^^^ CB: Marx and Engels didn't a liberal democratic approach to democracy. You will find ,if we start looking into Marx and Engels ...

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Author:	Charles Brown
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:38:10 PST 2005

386 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

andie nachgeborenen wrote: aka Justin Schwartz >Well, at a minumum by democratic I mean a set of >procedures in which the majority rules through voting >or some equivalent expression of its preferences, and >I'd add, since I am a liberal democrat, that there has >to be some approximation to universal ...

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Author:	Travis Fast
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:44:36 PST 2005

387 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Well Charlie Brown, we can only hope you will start to live in the real world - the here and now - and address hard realities. Your cyber world appears to limit your intellect. I am over the posting limit - good night all. Charles Brown <cbrown at michiganlegal.org> wrote: Putin is on ...

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Author:	Peter Lavelle
Date:	Sun Dec 4 11:54:07 PST 2005

388 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

Peter Lavelle wrote: >Putin is on the record saying: "the outrageous price our country and >people had to paid for that Bolshevist experiment" or calls >communism a "road to a blind alley." That's what he says now. What was he saying when he was in the KGB? Boris Kagarlitsky said ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:12:34 PST 2005

389 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >I don't really want to get into the boring (here) >issue of Was The USSR a Good Thing. We've already solved that one with the lbo-talk poll: Russian revolution - a good thing? Yes 46 74.2% No 8 12.9% Too soon to tell 8 ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:14:10 PST 2005

390 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 496

On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Travis Fast wrote: > So what you really meant to write must have been "since I am a > democrat" since the status of of the modifier liberal has no > purchase sans a nod to free markets and Bentham. Try this one for 'purchase' ... 4 ...

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Author:	martin
Date:	Sun Dec 4 12:17:56 PST 2005