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151 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

Carrol Cox wrote: >I guess they don't teach this >at the University of Virginia. Nope. They teach beer drinking, belching, ball-scratching, and road-tripping. Time of my life, man. I get misty-eyed thinking about it. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 6 17:42:46 PDT 2004

152 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

Jim Farmelant wrote: > > > I don't think that the Bearded One had any such illusions concerning > the proletariat. The proletariat would eventually overthrow capitalism, > not because they were inherently noble but because of their peculiar > position within the capitalist mode of production which on the one > hand oppressed them through exploitation ...

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Author:	Carrol Cox
Date:	Wed Oct 6 17:22:06 PDT 2004

153 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

Jim Farmelant wrote: >I don't think that the Bearded One had any such illusions concerning >the proletariat. No, the Bearded One was very unsentimental. But how many socialists/leftists today are? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 6 16:15:04 PDT 2004

154 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT) andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> writes: > Would you hate me if I said that I was attracted to > J.S. Mill's idea that there are different orders of > pleasures, some are better than others objectively, > and that you ...

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Author:	Jim Farmelant
Date:	Wed Oct 6 15:54:58 PDT 2004

155 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:09:41 -0400 Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes: > andie nachgeborenen wrote: > > >I think this is also a very Marxian idea. Isn't it a > >problem with capitalism that it degrades taste and > >human skill and accomplishment, producing stunted > >monsters? Isn't it supposed ...

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Author:	Jim Farmelant
Date:	Wed Oct 6 16:00:13 PDT 2004

156 [lbo-talk] Re: in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

Dear List: Joanna writes: > I'd go one further and say that the "greatest pleasure" is something that goes beyond pleasure, beyond the pleasure/pain/numb complex of feeling. This state, which is beyond pleasure/pain is referred to by many as joy and it is asserted that it is not ...

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Author:	BklynMagus
Date:	Wed Oct 6 15:28:14 PDT 2004

157 ... talk] TV without TiVo (in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos') -- rank: 744

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 02:10 PM, Curtiss Leung wrote: > Curtiss, who when he was into *some* comic books used to believe > fervently that _Love and Rockets_ by the Hernandez Bros. was the > apex of the medium, and this despite never having read a classic > Marvel comic. I started ...

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Author:	John Adams
Date:	Wed Oct 6 15:20:23 PDT 2004

158 [lbo-talk] in which lbo-talk defends 'the sopranos' -- rank: 744

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >I think this is also a very Marxian idea. Isn't it a >problem with capitalism that it degrades taste and >human skill and accomplishment, producing stunted >monsters? Isn't it supposed to be an advantage of >socialism that it will enable people to develop their >talents and ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 6 15:09:41 PDT 2004

159 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ (An offer you can't refuse) -- rank: 659

... exitleft.org> > >>> i have never seen an episode of 'the sopranos' and i do not plan > >>> to, ever... > > > > But you're really missing something by not seeing The Sopranos, which > > offers a real window on the American psyche. Tony ... to shreds in > > a temper tantrum the next moment. The Sopranos is a scary show; the > > US is a scary country ...

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Author:	Carl Remick
Date:	Thu Oct 7 13:04:55 PDT 2004

160 [lbo-talk] Nikki Finke speaks for the philistines -- rank: 659

... DAILY THAAAT'S What We Were All Waiting For? Angry 'Sopranos' Fans Crash HBO Website The line to cancel HBO starts ... What a ridiculously disappointing end lacking in creativity to The Sopranos saga. But if you're one of those who found ... commercialism shouldn't be tolerated. (See my Does Chase Have 'Sopranos' Movie Idea?) There's even buzz that the real ending ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 11 08:47:04 PDT 2007

161 [lbo-talk] This Is the End of Tony -- rank: 659

... argument is that my response to the "story" of THE SOPRANOS was modest. It struck no chords with me; the fact ... a disadvantage in that I knew the story of THE SOPRANOS before I watched the show (I went through the dvds ...

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Author:	BklynMagus
Date:	Wed Jun 13 10:01:37 PDT 2007

162 [lbo-talk] everything Jersey -- rank: 659

... coll=1> Newark Star-Ledger ["Everything Jersey"] - June 12, 2007 'Sopranos' creator's last word: End speaks for itself What do ... TV world ends? You go to dinner, then keep quiet. "Sopranos" creator David Chase took his wife out for dinner Sunday ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jun 12 14:22:45 PDT 2007

163 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ (An offer you can't refuse) -- rank: 608

... which, if i >> understand correctly, is the setting for 'the sopranos')? >> chinatown in nyc? iselin in nj? jersey city? > > ---------------------------------- There are ... in NJ, etc. i seriously doubt you will find a "sopranos" cast of characters in these "ghettos". Carl Remick wrote: >> From ...

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Author:	ravi
Date:	Thu Oct 7 09:35:25 PDT 2004

164 [lbo-talk] Re: lbo tv guide poll -- rank: 608

... end falls back to refuting the idea that watching The Sopranos is not morally wrong. It would have been a better ... interesting perhaps would be tackling the idea that watching The Sopranos as an isolated event is certainly not harmful but when ... 02:30 PM 10/5/2004, Michael Pugliese wrote: >The Sopranos and Philosophy: I Kill Therefore I Am (Popular Culture and ...

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Author:	John Thornton
Date:	Tue Oct 5 14:44:50 PDT 2004

165 [lbo-talk] Nikki Finke speaks for the philistines -- rank: 544

On 6/11/07, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 11, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > > > It was a great ending. My guess, before the penultimate show when she > > 'fired' him, was that the show would end with the beginning of a > > session > > with his ...

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Author:	Jerry Monaco
Date:	Mon Jun 11 10:20:07 PDT 2007