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3616 [lbo-talk] Zogby: Obama winning big in electoral votes, thanks to Barr -- rank: 149

[A third party estimate of 6% in July usually becomes 0.6% in November, so this should probably be taken with a tablespoon of salt. But it's got as least much right to mold our mood as the ravings of Rove.] http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID ...

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Author:	Michael Pollak
Date:	Mon Jul 7 07:52:48 PDT 2008

3617 [lbo-talk] Growing moderatism in academia -- rank: 149

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > Tayssir John Gabbour wrote: >> (For instance, you'd expect that the businesses surrounding/within >> universities would be labs in advanced economic systems. > > Why? That would be subverting their purpose for existing, which is to > generate ...

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Author:	Tayssir John Gabbour
Date:	Mon Jul 7 02:54:11 PDT 2008

3618 [lbo-talk] Checklist of recent Obama right-wing policy announcements -- rank: 149

Max Sawicky writes of Obama's latest capitulations: I'm keeping my own list. Includes getting more "responsible" about withdrawing from Iraq; support death penalty for rapists; supports Supremes nullification of D.C. gun ban; does Sister Soldjah number on MoveOn.Org; rejects public financing; back-tracking on NAFTA; dissing Wesley ...

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Author:	Marvin Gandall
Date:	Tue Jul 1 14:50:03 PDT 2008

3619 [lbo-talk] Magnanimous Despair was Always Crashing...(was: Effective Infighting) -- rank: 149

Dwayne Monroe wrote: > > > Although we've thrown about a million words into the air -- like flak > shells, desperately hurled against B-24s over the summer, 1945 skies > of Berlin -- the debate's heart is easily summarized: is it better to > work inside The System (represented here by electoral politics) or > outside ...

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Author:	Carrol Cox
Date:	Tue Jul 1 14:36:25 PDT 2008

3620 [lbo-talk] let's all pray for a depression -- rank: 149

> I guess one of the things that sometimes bothers me about your various > proposals is that there doesn't seem to be any sustained reasons for _why_ > you think organizing ought to go on around an issue. It just seems to > present itself, and then you implore folks to step ...

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Author:	chuck at mutualaid.org
Date:	Tue Jan 22 19:21:33 PST 2008

3621 [lbo-talk] i am *so* not a liberal -- rank: 149

On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Ira Glazer wrote: > so, doug, you don't agree with chomsky's view that on many issues -- > i.e. universal health care; use of government funds for social needs, > rather than for the military; use of diplomacy rather than military > force in international ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:05:53 PST 2008

3622 [lbo-talk] Barter Town Will Rebuild, was Rove -- rank: 149

Chuck -- > Okay I'll bite. But you gotta promise to read my last post under the > subject, ``Narrative and the model, was Obama & white guys'' I read it. > See here is the plan. You need both community organizations, some > federal projects and contacts inside the oversight apparatus and you > begin to ...

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Author:	Max B. Sawicky
Date:	Sun Feb 24 13:22:05 PST 2008

3623 [lbo-talk] the fourth time as...? -- rank: 149

Politico.com Breaking News: --------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Nader tells NBC's "Meet the Press" he's launching a ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Feb 24 07:41:15 PST 2008

3624 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

The fact is that Obama and Hillary are, as I said before, ideological twins keeps getting lost by a small group of Obama supporters. If you want to express a preference for one over another for some minor reason that's probably cool with everyone here and I doubt you'd ...

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Author:	John Thornton
Date:	Fri Feb 22 15:09:40 PST 2008

3625 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

Thanks Maryellen. Said much better than my own clotted and eye-clouded prose. Build and organize and mobilize and make connections; community organizations, unions, movements, grass roots, etc. But voting is marginal and do it because it can sometimes make a small difference in some places. But don't spend your ...

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Author:	Jerry Monaco
Date:	Fri Feb 22 09:35:42 PST 2008

3626 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

"Voting is easy and marginally useful, but it is a poor substitute for democracy, which requires direct action by concerned citizens." - Howard Zinn http://zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/16590 "The question is what will you do, where will you go with the one opening that they leave you which they ...

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Author:	MK
Date:	Fri Feb 22 09:14:41 PST 2008

3627 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

John has it right. There is hardly a difference between Obama and Clinton except in the section of the 5% of the potential voting population that votes for them in these "high" voter turn-out primaries. The people who actually sit it out, who are actually ignorant of the issues might ...

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Author:	Jerry Monaco
Date:	Fri Feb 22 09:07:32 PST 2008

3628 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

... Is it Rosa's mass strike? A more handsome Ralph Nader? What? >> You keep saying things like this without offering any ...

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Author:	Max B. Sawicky
Date:	Fri Feb 22 08:28:31 PST 2008

3629 [lbo-talk] Rove -- rank: 149

... it's easy to be motivated about Obama because unlike Nader whose politics are better in many ways (for example on ...

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Author:	abu hartal
Date:	Fri Feb 22 07:30:45 PST 2008

3630 [lbo-talk] Truly thou art damned, like an ill-roasted egg, all on one side -- rank: 149

Doug Henwood wrote: > > On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Voyou wrote: > > > Now, running a third-party presidential candidate might in > > principle be > > an element in a genuine political mobilization, but the point is that > > it's the mobilization which is important, not the presidential run. > > Bingo. Though it would ...

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Author:	Carrol Cox
Date:	Tue Feb 19 18:41:09 PST 2008