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2401 [lbo-talk] Who Set People Up for Disappointment and Demoralization? -- rank: 345

... we to count up posts, the number of posts >>pummeling Nader supporters/Nader would be quite a bit less than the >>number of posts pummeling Doug and others for not supporting Nader. :o > >Posts to lbo-talk in 2004 containing the word "Nader" > >from dhenwood at panix.com 251 >from furuhashi.1 at ...

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Author:	snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com
Date:	Sat Feb 26 08:56:45 PST 2005

2402 bad nooz for Dems -- rank: 345

... 06/2002 -0500, Doug wrote: >Why should a vote for Nader mean a vote for a Dem for Congress? Lots >of Nader voters wouldn't vote for a Dem if a gun ... myself disagreeing with Seth, but I don't see how Nader >gave the election to Bush. If Gore had carried his ... have voted had I not been able to vote for Nader. As for Gore. Not only did he not win in ...

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Author:	joanna bujes
Date:	Wed Feb 6 14:06:01 PST 2002

2403 the rabbinical view of LesserEvilism -- rank: 345

... population expresses dismay at the major candidates, feels closer to Nader in terms of the issues he raises, but fears that ... by the anger of some Gore supporters who believe that Nader supporters have lost their moral compass in their inability to ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 2 10:07:23 PST 2000

2404 [lbo-talk] Class Action: The Million Worker March, October 17 -- rank: 345

... of a demonstration, and both the Green Party and the Nader/Camejo campaign endorsed the Million Worker March, the march organizers ... explicitly come out in support of the Green Party or Nader/Camejo or any new political party on the left. They ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Mon Oct 18 08:49:33 PDT 2004

2405 [lbo-talk] If only we (U.S) had leftish politicians like this -- rank: 345

... candidates who pledge to withdraw US troops from Iraq -- Ralph Nader, David Cobb, Michael Badnarik, lesser known socialist candidates, etc. The ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Mon Oct 4 00:13:22 PDT 2004

2406 Lesser-evilism and third parties -- rank: 345

... by twenty minutes of Wyona LaDuke, and finally an hourlong Nader speech. The flyers advertising the event beforehand featured a big photo of Nader, and no mention of any music or entertainment. --BD ----- Original ... 40 AM Subject: Re: Lesser-evilism and third parties : Was Nader appearing by himself or with some entertainment : celebrities or musicians ... Andy English : : > : >: Btw, is everyone clear on the fact that Nader sold out the Portland : >: Collise

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Author:	B. Deutsch
Date:	Tue Aug 29 06:58:08 PDT 2000

2407 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 345

Doug Henwood wrote: > > > From here on, anyone who equates Nader's candidacy with a third party > will be guilty of a mortal sin, and burn in hell accordingly. > Nader (or anyone like him) is not going to create a ... party, nor even personally contribute to such a party. But Nader's _voters_ are at the heart of any hope for ... party in the u.s. Look at this way. Suppose Nader (plus any Green candidate) get a total of 1 million ...

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Author:	Carrol Cox
Date:	Mon Mar 15 16:16:31 PST 2004

2408 Shrub Bush's Supreme Court (fwd) -- rank: 345

fwiw: friend sent me below... Michael Hoover > The Progressive > Editor Matthew Rothschild comments on the "news of the day". > October 28, 2000 > > Let's examine the Supreme Court argument a little more closely. > > First of all, it's not a given that George W. Bush will appoint arch > conservatives who will ...

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Author:	Michael Hoover
Date:	Fri Nov 3 04:20:36 PST 2000

2409 Response to Wilentz et al. -- rank: 345

... overt reactionaries is not to welcome their ascent >to power. Nader’s point is the lack of difference between the >“reactionaries ... think there are differences in this area – but if, like Nader, one sees no >meaningful difference, then one is not wishing ... president. > Max: you're papering over a very big crack! Nader is like the guy who borrows your bowl brings it ... second, it was cracked when I got it. Just so, Nader says one day that there is no diff

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Author:	Kevin Quinn
Date:	Fri Nov 3 10:14:35 PST 2000

2410 free ride -- rank: 345

... parties of >government on the ballot? Interestingly, while progressive anti-Nader folks did a lot of campaigning to push potential pro-Nader folks to come back to the Dems, they didn't ... of this in Florida, partly because no one thought the Nader vote was going to be that large. Florida was seen ... it's closeness was a bit of a surprise. So Nader voters in Florida could have easily thought it was a ...

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Author:	Nathan Newman
Date:	Tue Nov 12 14:48:30 PST 2002

2411 Eric the manly -- rank: 345

Brad, >It is true that Nader's net lifetime impact on social welfare has >probably switched ... Besides, it is easy after the fact to point to Nader and say that he was the difference in the election ...

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Author:	brettk at unicacorp.com
Date:	Wed Nov 8 14:30:22 PST 2000

2412 Lonely on LBO -- rank: 345

>I don't understand. Any Nader voter that was undecided went for Gore. >Exactly what was the impact of Nader that is resulting in this >"constitutional crisis"? Surely you don't believe that all of Nader's votes >would have gone to Gore. > >Sergio Lopez Only ... one in forty need to have come from Gore for Nader to have turned this election, if Florida is in Bush ...

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Author:	Brad DeLong
Date:	Wed Nov 8 13:07:36 PST 2000

2413 election demographics -- rank: 345

... national numbers apply to FLA, then the >1.6% for Nader does do it after removing the 30% >new voters and ... of >whose voters would support Gore over Bush, etc.). > Yes, Nader made the difference in Florida. >Barkley Rosser but I"M ... no balls state! again, what i'm saying is that nader votes were canx out by more gore votes that he ... close outcome was going to happen anyway, regardless of the nader push for 5%. THAT is what the gripe is. if ...

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Author:	snit
Date:	Wed Nov 8 12:40:04 PST 2000

2414 election demographics -- rank: 345

... national numbers apply to FLA, then the 1.6% for Nader does do it after removing the 30% new voters and ... of whose voters would support Gore over Bush, etc.). Yes, Nader made the difference in Florida. Barkley Rosser -----Original Message----- From ... demographics >On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, kelley wrote: > >> >college, with Nader votes in Florida and a few other >> >places clearly making the difference. >> >> >> i think it is pretty clear that nader didn't steal many votes in >> florida. > > >Face it Kel ...

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Author:	J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Date:	Wed Nov 8 11:08:45 PST 2000

2415 [lbo-talk] Voting and Its Outcomes -- rank: 345

... consequences. Some recent excerpts from posts: Yoshie: “votes for Nader/Camejo, whether the ticket wins or loses, registers American dissent ... consensus for wars, occupations, and empire” Joseph: “voting for Nader/Camejo is a self-conscious expression of hope for some ... Shane: “I don't especially call for voting for Nader (unless "Nader" is synecdoche for any left-wing alternative candidate). Between the ...

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Author:	BklynMagus
Date:	Wed Jul 14 11:07:16 PDT 2004