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2311 [lbo-talk] reflections on the current crisis -- rank: 386

Carl quoted Nader's account of something his FATHER said: " 'Why will capitalism ... always be used to save it.'" Carl commented: "Sagacious guy, Nader père." No one said anything about Nader, Jr's opinions. BobW > > BTW, re your "LBO at 20 ... art of state-led > bailouts" -- I was reminded of Ralph Nader's recollection of paternal > wisdom recently in Counterpunch: "My father ... socialism will always be used to save > it.'" Sagacious guy, Nader père. Or as Gore Vidal put it, "what they want ...

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Author:	Robert Wrubel
Date:	Tue Aug 21 17:49:31 PDT 2007

2312 [lbo-talk] LBO-talk Fundrace, the Second Amendment, Etc. -- rank: 386

... recall a single member of the Anybody But Bush and Nader group standing up for the right to secrecy of Republicans ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Sun Jul 18 11:39:56 PDT 2004

2313 [lbo-talk] The Green Party's Political Suicide -- rank: 386

... I'm intrigued by the lack of comment from our Nader fans on his >failure to win the Green Party nomination ... say about the Greens (and him)? Etc. I'm no Nader "fan," but I believe that the Green Party would have gotten more out of the Nader/Camejo campaign than the Cobb/LaMarch one, so I blogged ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Thu Jul 1 07:30:28 PDT 2004

2314 The Language of Betrayal -- rank: 386

... as I say, not as I do" sweepstakes. The entire Nader campaign was organized around the theme of betrayal by Gore ... all those who supported Gore's election. It ended with Nader threatening to do everything he could do to defeat the ...

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Author:	Leo Casey
Date:	Thu Nov 16 09:46:36 PST 2000

2315 Voter Fraud,etc. -- rank: 386

... Socialite" candidate for president got about 800 write in votes. Nader is credited with getting 19 votes in that same county ... in Florida a few years back. Is this true? > > Re Nader: I didn't vote for Nader because even if he got el

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Author:	Tom Lehman
Date:	Tue Nov 14 19:07:34 PST 2000

2316 Cockburn: The Coup -- rank: 386

There are Democratic attack dogs--=they turned them loose on Nader. Fact of the matter is, the Dems do not believe ... liberal in the sense that you describe. I voted for Nader and I would have done if my vote had tipped ...

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Author:	Justin Schwartz
Date:	Wed Dec 20 09:48:19 PST 2000

2317 Lieberman and the Left -- rank: 386

FrontPage Exclusives - http://www.frontpagemag.com Lieberman and the Left August 15, 2000 DEBATE HAS been raging about whether or not Al Gore's vice presidential candidate, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, is a liberal whose deeply held belief in Judaism, and his membership in an Orthodox congregation, is a cloak behind ...

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Author:	radman
Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:47:26 PDT 2000

2318 Victories for instant runoff voting in SF & Vermont -- rank: 386

... but because Mr. Clinton's free-trade policies fueled Ralph Nader's spoiler campaign." Is this true? I supported Nader but was ambivalent on Clinton's free-trade policies. Nader's message was that both parties are on their knees ...

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Author:	Peter K.
Date:	Sat Mar 9 07:26:40 PST 2002

2319 [lbo-talk] re: another one from bi-polar central... -- rank: 386

... sociologist... --- New Survey: 59% of Likely Voters Want Independent Ralph Nader Included in Presidential Debates 72% Support Inclusion of "Nationally Recognized ... 1,000 likely voters shows that 59% want independent Ralph Nader included in the televised presidential debates?regardless of who they ... 7th found that 62% of undecided voters want the independent Nader included?5 points higher than the sampling of all voters ...

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Author:	frank scott
Date:	Sat Sep 18 13:59:37 PDT 2004

2320 [lbo-talk] Prop. 62 Would Squelch Third Parties in California -- rank: 386

Bill Bartlett billbartlett at dodo.com.au, Mon Oct 25 19:49:33 PDT 2004: >I've always been mystified about how the US electoral process got to >be so backward. But the ABC showed a background segment on the US >election last night: >http://www.abc.net.au/7.30 ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Mon Oct 25 22:20:41 PDT 2004

2321 bad nooz for Dems -- rank: 386

... of the vote than any Democrat since 1976. And if Nader hadn't >divided the progressive vote, he would have translated ... numerical vote >into winning the election. That you think that Nader cost Gore the election suggests that you only half-believe ... a strong economy, the incumbent party should have won big. Nader shouldn't have made a crucial difference, even assuming he ... Monica! More head!!"). Besides, you can't just assume that Nader's votes came from Gore. Many Nader voters probably wouldn't have voted otherwise. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Feb 5 08:16:05 PST 2002

2322 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 386

I knew many people last time around who voted Nader in an attempt to help build a third party. They ... wanted Federal matching funds for the Green party. What has Nader done to further that goal between this election and the ... don't think one can argue in good faith that Nader is interested in building a third party. He had an ... otherwise but see no evidence that supports the claim that Nader is party building. Running for President is not in and ... of a >third party, I think that's simply false. Nader's trying to show that >campaigning to the left of ...

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Author:	John Thornton
Date:	Mon Mar 15 21:37:09 PST 2004

2323 Lonely on LBO -- rank: 386

... CNN reports I have seen claim that nationally 47% of Nader voters would have voted for Gore in a two person ... would have voted for Bush. It may well be that Nader did not give it to Bush anywhere else (any final ...

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Author:	J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Date:	Wed Nov 8 09:34:26 PST 2000

2324 lbo-talk-digest V1 #3629 -- rank: 386

... Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Summary of Nader analysis > > Well of course if Bush is anointed or elected ... But I think as I > have said before that we Nader supports and third party supporters generally > should not be afraid ... and > that the Dems are often better. I thought that Nader said otherwise - before Bush (probably) won. And there won't ... GMT > From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Nader cost himself federal funds (Re: election demographics) > > >And in the ...

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Author:	Barry Rene DeCicco
Date:	Mon Nov 13 06:31:56 PST 2000

2325 Union Avoids Neutrality Agreements Fight- Fears Bush NLRB Attack -- rank: 386

Dennis, Your comments show how really uninformed you are about organizing. Neutrality agreements are THE WAY unions have been bypassing the NLRB; however, employers are mounting a legal attack to force unions to use NLRB procedures and invalidate any recognition based on alternative methods of recognizing unions such as card check ...

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Author:	Nathan Newman
Date:	Wed Jul 18 10:35:19 PDT 2001