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2161 bad nooz for Dems -- rank: 419

Nader claims that his campaign helped turn out enough progressives in Washington to elect Maria Cantwell -- and if you blame Nader for Gore losing Florida I think you have to give ... of the vote than any Democrat since 1976. And if Nader hadn't >divided the progressive vote, he would have translated ...

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Author:	J Cullen
Date:	Tue Feb 5 08:28:40 PST 2002

2162 bad nooz for Dems -- rank: 419

... of the vote than any Democrat since 1976. And if Nader hadn't > divided the progressive vote, he would have translated ... all his failings, justifiably, but the refusal to > deal with Nader's responsibility as well shows how absolutely resistant > third party ... talking about me, so let me ask you this: if nader and his followers want to run for office, whats wrong ...

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Author:	ravi
Date:	Tue Feb 5 06:55:40 PST 2002

2163 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 419

On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, John Thornton wrote: > Most Nader supporters I know did not get 'exactly what [they] wanted'. They > wanted Nader to garner enough votes to get federal funds for the ... Bush was APPOINTED President. I don't personally know any Nader > supporters who "got exactly what [they] wanted'. How many of you know of > Nader supporters claiming the outcome of the election is 'exactly what > [they] wanted'? Perhaps I should rephrase: Nader got exactly what he wanted, and it seems that many, though not all, Nader supporters on the left got exactly what they wanted ( ...

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Author:	Marco Anglesio
Date:	Wed Aug 7 08:17:00 PDT 2002

2164 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 419

... win. I used to have a lot of respect for nader,then I read 5 or 6 articles on his growing ...

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Author:	gary butler
Date:	Tue Aug 6 19:25:31 PDT 2002

2165 [lbo-talk] Where Do Leftists Live in the USA? -- rank: 419

Thomas Seay entheogens at yahoo.com, Mon Nov 1 10:59:27 PST 2004: >Entry into the Democratic Party in those places where it is well >entrenched, from what I know, does not work too well. Leftists get >used and the spit out. Precisely. Many of today's Green Party members ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Tue Nov 2 06:17:26 PST 2004

2166 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 419

... for president. The Greens > have every right to run Ralph Nader as a candidate. Certainly. No one's arguing that. It's also entirely possible that Nader voters would not have voted for any other Green candidate, but for Nader's personal appeal, and would have voted Democratic - something you ... Dems was the point of the exercise, at least for Nader. Nader said as much during the campaign. Why am I seeing ...

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Author:	Marco Anglesio
Date:	Tue Aug 6 07:21:40 PDT 2002

2167 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 419

... for president. The Greens > have every right to run Ralph Nader as a candidate. And I have every right to crudely ... wit. That doesn't mean I should. In fact, like Nader's candidacy, doing so would seem to be a poor ... SWP? > 3) Or, it could be argued that Gore cost Nader the presidency. Only by an ignoramus. Nader would've been hard-pres

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Author:	Luke Weiger
Date:	Tue Aug 6 00:42:05 PDT 2002

2168 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 419

... tepid quality of Gore's > campaign doesn't entail excusing Nader for costing him the presidency? > Nader apologists are about as astute as the local sports columnists ... for president. The Greens have every right to run Ralph Nader as a candidate. 2) It could just as easy be ... Florida. 3) Or, it could be argued that Gore cost Nader the presidency. I think Doug's earlier comment was the perfect retort to this renewed whining about Ralph Nader. I don't like that union-buster Nader, but I ca

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Author:	Chuck Munson
Date:	Mon Aug 5 21:16:08 PDT 2002

2169 [lbo-talk] Re: Powerless Religious Right? -- rank: 419

... been around long before postmodernism was ever invented. > Also, if Nader's campaign is designed not for electoral success, but > for ... a candidate to get your ideas onto the national stage. Nader is taken seriously as a candidate. He gets media attention ... getting progressive ideas out there, albeit in a limited manner. Nader is in a unique situation as a public figure that ...

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Author:	Chuck0
Date:	Wed Sep 15 17:46:56 PDT 2004

2170 [lbo-talk] Re: Powerless Religious Right? -- rank: 419

Dear List: Chuck0 writes: > Nader's campaign is an example of "politics as theater." But ... as effectively since the corporate-controlled Democrats have been fighting Nader tooth-and-nail (which shows in Kerry's falling poll ... an in-crowd message for the initiated few. Also, if Nader's campaign is designed not for electoral success, but for ...

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Author:	BklynMagus
Date:	Wed Sep 15 12:26:53 PDT 2004

2171 Union Avoids Neutrality Agreements Fight- Fears Bush NLRB Attack -- rank: 419

... are from the day-to-day reality of union > organizing. > > Nader screwed the union movement. All the rationalizations won't change ...

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Author:	Joe R. Golowka
Date:	Wed Jul 18 16:50:25 PDT 2001

2172 (no subject) -- rank: 419

An interesting perspective: << Why not focus on Gore's inability to inspire the Green voters?  Reminds me of the 8 track tape CEO getting mad at the consumers because they didn't like it when songs got chopped up between tracks. Gore didn't own these votes.  It was up to ...

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Author:	LeoCasey at aol.com
Date:	Wed Jan 24 08:59:40 PST 2001

2173 Gore etc. -- rank: 419

... those who wouldn't otherwise vote. If the later then Nader's >drop in the polls isn't because he's ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 22 07:13:01 PDT 2000

2174 Raking Gore's Muck -- rank: 419

Al Gore is the only realistic choice for President in 2000. So say many white progressives. And yet Gore stinks from his own political muck. Cockburn and St. Clair's new book demonstrates why. Raking Gore's Muck By Kendall Clark muckrake v.intr. search out and reveal scandal, esp. among ...

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Author:	Kendall Clark
Date:	Mon Sep 18 15:34:21 PDT 2000

2175 [fla-left] [Election 2000/commentary] McReynolds' Socialist vision provocative (fwd) -- rank: 419

forwarded by Michael Hoover > McReynolds' Socialist vision provocative > > By John Nichols > August 24, 2000 > > [The Capitol Times, Madison, WI] > > In any other Western democracy, the leader of the Socialist Party would > travel down the campaign trail with an entourage of high-powered aides, > reporters, photographers, and the other hangers-on who ...

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Author:	Michael Hoover
Date:	Sat Sep 16 05:53:46 PDT 2000