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1531 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 472

--- uvj at vsnl.com wrote: > > Perhaps, but the question why the US Left is so tiny > is rarely addressed adequately. Even when the > Marxist Left was globally ascendent, the US Left > wasn't a significant force. Now that the Marxist > Left is in decline globally, what are the prospects > for ...

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Author:	Chris Doss
Date:	Wed Aug 25 11:02:29 PDT 2004

1532 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 472

On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jeffrey Fisher wrote: > but what do we make of the difference between dem behavior in the > senate and > dem behavior in the house? The Senate is a structurally reactionary body, by design. > i have to admit, what i'm really hearing in this ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 7 08:04:32 PDT 2007

1533 [lbo-talk] Americas Leftists, Michael Moore, and Ralph Nader -- rank: 472

Marv Gandall writes: > Still, I don’t believe, as some do, that Kerry is > a shoo-in The only people here arguing that Kerry is a shoo-in are the people who are trying to rationalize their own policy of sitting on their asses and doing nothing to defeat Bush. This ...

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Author:	John Lacny
Date:	Wed Jul 14 05:54:04 PDT 2004

1534 [lbo-talk] The Importance of Disenfranchising Nader/Camejo Voters -- rank: 472

On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 05:56 PM, Nathan Newman wrote: > Greens expect to be taken seriously > despite the fact that they don't have any serious associated > non-electoral > organizations associated with them-- no church networks, no unions, not > even a network of neighborhood watch groups. But their hearts ...

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Author:	John Adams
Date:	Tue Aug 10 15:17:18 PDT 2004

1535 ... Out And Make Me Do It (Was: The Importance ofDisenfranchising Nader/Camejo Voters) -- rank: 472

> For all I get portrayed as a Dem-Clinton apologist, I spent much of the > 1990s organizing against him on many issues, from NAFTA to welfare reform, > probably doing more actual organizing against Clinton than many of his > bashers on this list. Statements like this are why I occasionally despair ...

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Author:	Dennis Redmond
Date:	Mon Aug 16 19:03:27 PDT 2004

1536 Why I Decided Not To Vote For Nader In A 'Safe' State, And How LBO-Talk Helped -- rank: 472

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Or praise him. Leo's doing a fantastic job of moving nearly >_everyone_ at _every_ point of the LBO political spectrum _to the >left_. Thank you Leo. We're going to be presenting you with the Order of Lenin medal - or the Order of Kropotkin, take your choice ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Nov 4 11:35:58 PST 2000

1537 [lbo-talk] The Importance of Disenfranchising Nader/Camejo Voters -- rank: 472

In a message dated 8/13/2004 11:48:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, nathanne at nathannewman.org writes: So it's clear that a range of civil rights activists representing a range of minority interests have clear concessions in Kerry's program. So it is a significant concession for the ...

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Author:	SergioL652 at aol.com
Date:	Fri Aug 13 19:51:08 PDT 2004

1538 [lbo-talk] nader and his detractors... -- rank: 472

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >I agree with Brad and Deborah that combining local and national >campaigns makes eminent sense. I'm only opposed to the idea that >the Green Party (or any other third party on the left that may come >into being in the future) should concentrate only on local >elections ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Oct 9 09:22:54 PDT 2004

1539 Why I Decided Not To Vote For Nader In A 'Safe' State, And How LBO-Talk Helped -- rank: 472

At 10:05 PM 11/3/00 -0500, you wrote: >. . .I've decided to vote for Ralph after all . . . >> >mbs >> >> No! No! No!... > Brad DeLong > > >Leo drove me to it. Blame him. > >mbs > > > Max: go back and re-read Michael Lerner: I'm sure you'll come around! (-; Kevin

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Author:	Kevin Quinn
Date:	Sat Nov 4 05:29:54 PST 2000

1540 [lbo-talk] Re: Nader Goes Buchananite -- rank: 472

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 at 2:35am snit snat wrote: > > my guess? DSM-IV 302.89 or 302.9 hey, hey, hey! citing DSM is *my* trope -- you have to ask nicely if you wanna use it! -- no Onan Truth is the most valuable thing we have - so let us ...

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Author:	budge
Date:	Thu Jun 24 12:09:17 PDT 2004

1541 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 472

> On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, John Thornton wrote: > > Most Nader supporters I know did not get 'exactly what [they] wanted'. They > > wanted Nader to garner enough votes to get federal funds for the ... Bush was APPOINTED President. I don't personally know any Nader > > supporters who "got exactly what [they] wanted'. How many of you know of > > Nader supporters claiming the outcome of the election is 'exactly what > > [they] wanted'? > > Perhaps I should rephrase: Nader got exactly what he wanted, and it seems > that many, though not all, Nader supporters on the left got exactly what > they wanted ( ...

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Author:	John Thornton
Date:	Wed Aug 7 13:22:00 PDT 2002

1542 Why I Decided Not To Vote For Nader In A 'Safe' State, And How LBO-Talk Helped -- rank: 472

G'day Yoshie, Much as I enjoy resolute efforts like Leo's (often helping us avoid the group-think trap, and otherwise, as here. forcing us to grasp nettles), it's the social democratic parties who've done it, I reckon. I'm no radical by disposition, and were it not ...

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Author:	Rob Schaap
Date:	Fri Nov 3 21:43:04 PST 2000

1543 Why I Decided Not To Vote For Nader In A 'Safe' State, And How LBO-Talk Helped -- rank: 472

>. . .I've decided to vote for Ralph after all . . . >> >mbs >> > > No! No! No!... > > Brad DeLong > >Leo drove me to it. Blame him. > >mbs Or praise him. Leo's doing a fantastic job of moving nearly _everyone_ at _every_ point of the LBO political spectrum _to the left_. Yoshie

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Fri Nov 3 21:11:03 PST 2000

1544 Nader & NOW -- rank: 472

Max Sawicky wrote: >This is a great process for identifying the pet poodles of >the Democratic Party's corporatist sponsors. The ad >hominem stuff coming from them is outrageous. Imagine >the reaction if some of it came back on them. Kissing ass >is a career and a way of life for ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Sep 16 11:10:49 PDT 2000

1545 Why I Decided Not To Vote For Nader In A 'Safe' State, And How LBO-Talk Helped -- rank: 472

. . .I've decided to vote for Ralph after all . . . > >mbs > > No! No! No!... Brad DeLong Leo drove me to it. Blame him. mbs

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Author:	Max Sawicky
Date:	Fri Nov 3 19:05:42 PST 2000