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1426 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 472

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck0" <chuck at mutualaid.org> >The fact is, almost all similar >nonprofits located in Washington are absolutely worthless...Their agendas are >dictated by the corporate fucks who sit on their boards (i.e. Sierra >Club or Nature Conservancy) or by the need to sell yuppie clothing >(Human ...

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Author:	Nathan Newman
Date:	Wed Aug 25 15:14:49 PDT 2004

1427 [lbo-talk] RE: Nader and His Detractors -- rank: 472

Brad Mayer wrote: >Evidence: Where was the antiwar movement in this election year? Where was the antiwar movement last year, after the war began? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 20 09:58:00 PDT 2004

1428 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali endorses Kerry, denounces Nader -- rank: 472

>>Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >If Bush manages to get elected, I predict that we will be hearing precisely >the same arguments in 2008, to the effect that you have to vote for the >Democratic presidential candidate because "you have to punish him [Bush], >and the best way to punish him is ...

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Author:	Joel Wendland
Date:	Fri Oct 29 18:02:35 PDT 2004

1429 [lbo-talk] Nader and his detractors -- rank: 472

> I know, that many of you say that it is just such a terrible thing to > contemplate - that Bush might get in. > But - Why do you seriously think that Kerry getting in, would enable you > to organise for anything beyond the Dem muzzle? It's a question of how the ...

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Author:	Dennis Redmond
Date:	Sat Oct 9 16:53:35 PDT 2004

1430 [lbo-talk] Ralph's letter to disgruntled conservatives... -- rank: 472

... zealots, or >other cryptofascists. Do Doug and Eric want Ralph Nader to receive only votes of those who would otherwise vote ... in better shape if the latter all voted for Bush? Nader writes: "The first basic sign of a platform fissure between ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Sun Apr 4 08:18:47 PDT 2004

1431 [lbo-talk] Nader and His Detractors -- rank: 472

On Saturday, October 9, 2004, at 06:16 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Who said anything running only in local elections forever? Not me. > What kind of straw man is this? You start locally - and I'm including > congressional races in local elections too. The hope is to build name > recognition and ...

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Author:	John Adams
Date:	Sat Oct 9 15:21:33 PDT 2004

1432 [lbo-talk] RE: Nader and His Detractors -- rank: 472

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Mayer" <gaikokugo at fusionbb.net> -Evidence: Where was the antiwar movement in this election year? Most of it was out trying to get rid of the guy who started the war. That may seem like a roundabout strategy to some folks who think standing around with ...

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Author:	Nathan Newman
Date:	Wed Oct 20 11:20:00 PDT 2004

1433 [lbo-talk] Nader and His Detractors -- rank: 472

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Anyhow, can you cite any case in a capitalist democracy where a >party kept running candidates only for local elections for decades >and then eventually became a dominant political party? Who said anything running only in local elections forever? Not me. What kind of straw man is this ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Oct 9 15:16:02 PDT 2004

1434 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 472

On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 22:05 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > As I keep saying, the political scientists who quantify these things > say that the differences between the two parties - in their electoral > base and their voting records in Congress - haven't been as wide as > they are now in ...

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Author:	Michael Smith
Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:43:17 PDT 2007

1435 [lbo-talk] RE: Nader and His Detractors -- rank: 472

Nathan Newman wrote: >It is pathetic that no leftwing website probably gets one-hundredth as much >traffic every day, but the militant liberals are kicking the left's ass on >organizing right now. I'm with you on this up to a point - but what's the post-electoral strategy? Because ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 20 12:11:05 PDT 2004

1436 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 472

On 08/07/07 11:12:28 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > > > The last sentence here, I think, reveals the fallacy in this > argument. > > It's the aisle-crossers who control the party as_an_institution_. > > Huh? The minority, not the ...

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Author:	Michael Smith
Date:	Tue Aug 7 08:44:19 PDT 2007

1437 [lbo-talk] "Stupid Gay Men on the Left" -- rank: 472

... 51 PDT 2004 > >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >>It is remarkable that Nader is still polling better than in 2000 > >Not exactly. In Gallup's latest poll, taken June 21-23, Nader's at >3%. In late June/early July 2000, he ... poll among many, though. I see 3-7% support for Nader at various polls at <http://pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm>. In 2000, Nader received only 1.1% in Ohio, and you said that Nader is polling at 2% in Ohio now (at <http://mailman ... State. In any case, I, as well as other critical Nader supporters, am interested in joining 3-6 millions of ...

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Author:	Yoshie Furuhashi
Date:	Fri Jul 2 14:50:25 PDT 2004

1438 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 472

Doug: I think the Dems suck, are abject tools of capital - and the whole notion of their "spinelessness" arises from the fact that they are tools of capital who have occasionally to sound (and even act) like they're not. But they're not identical to the Republicans. In the 50s ...

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Author:	Wojtek Sokolowski
Date:	Tue Aug 7 08:53:13 PDT 2007

1439 [lbo-talk] KPFA (was MALIK RAHIM: Yesterday's Radicals Devolve....) -- rank: 472

I mean: From my perspective, pror to 1999, the station's focus had a limited geographic and political basis. I live on the peninsula (San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties -aka Silicon Valley and San Jose, the region's largest City) and there was virtually no coverage of anything happening in ...

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Author:	Steven L. Robinson
Date:	Wed Oct 5 13:03:52 PDT 2005

1440 Ehrenreich on Nader -- rank: 472

In message <39D4DC87.22DE0636 at tao.ca>, Chuck0 <chuck at tao.ca> writes >The Clinton/Gore record >* Didn't lift a finger concerning the Rwandan genocide Not so. The US military trained and advised the RPF guerillas who invaded the country just prior to the slaughter, provoking the ethnic conflict. This ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Sep 29 16:12:27 PDT 2000