Search LBO-Talk Archives

691 The trouble with Corn -- rank: 1000

Peter K wrote: > >This morning I read a book review of celebrated author Jonathan >Franzen's new essay collection How To Be Alone. The reviewers says >Franzen had a close call with depression. Also, she ends the review with > >"In the four scant pages of "Inauguration Day, January 2001," Mr. >Franzen describes riding from >Harlem to Washington with a group of demonstrators from the >International Socialist Organization and marching to the Supreme >Cou ...

Document Size:	6380
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Nov 4 09:55:11 PST 2002

692 a death -- rank: 1000

>> >> >>By the time you >>read this it will be too late. >> >>Alec > >His 17 Aug 2001 post disturbed me so much that I looked him up in >the directory and called him. I was so relieved when he called back. > >I can't help thinking that I should have done something other than >simply e-mailing back -- I don't know what -- when he wrote me >offlist on 28 Sep 2002. >-- >Yoshie > I knew that Alec had been in rehab and had an addictio ...

Document Size:	5680
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 22:33:36 PST 2002

693 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

>Chuck wrote: > >I wrote an article today on homeless organizing: > >D.C. Activists Win Victory for Homeless >http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=37559&group=webcast Hey Chuck, glad to see this. One question for you -- is this school wheelchair accessible? Will they take disabled persons? Recently I ran into a fellow crip working for an Independent Living Center who was doing some work on the homeless issue in LA and he was finding that shelters are by and large ...

Document Size:	5758
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 22:22:39 PST 2002

694 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

>>Marta Russell wrote: > >Nathan's talking about organizers - but on a specific issue, like >homelessness (as in his example). You're talking about diabled >people demonstrating for disabiility rights with no support. That's >the American left, such as it is, for you. No contact, no >solidarity. Against that, you can sometimes see the appeal of a >Leninist party (ha, just kidding). It is no joke. It is very hard place to be in -- that is to see the capitalist underpinn ...

Document Size:	6647
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 15:36:59 PST 2002

695 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

> >Marta Russell wrote: >>My guess is that the American people for the most part don't know who >>the WWP is and really don't care. Nathan wrote: >They care because they experience the effects-- droning sectarian speeches >at rallies, spokespeople from various front groups who are all really >members of the WWP and spouting the line, and for more experienced >activists, the reality is very clear. Ok but I am referring to the larger numbers of people who are against ...

Document Size:	6678
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 15:19:06 PST 2002

696 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

> >Although, we must recognize those who really did >throw a monkey wrench into the machine, like the >soldiers who "fragged" their officers and the young >people who simply refused to go. > >-Thomas > Yea, that really stopped the war. Marta -- Marta Russell Los Angeles, CA http://www.disweb.org

Document Size:	5169
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 15:00:20 PST 2002

697 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

>--- Marta Russell <ap888 at lafn.org> wrote: > >> So where is their demo -- when is it scheduled? >> What are they getting done? >> > >Marta, let me ask you and others a question. If Pat >Buchannon, and his associates, organized a >demonstration against the war, would you go? And even >if you did go, wouldn't you at least hesitate because >of his politics? Buchannon would not do such a thing so your question is blatherskite in my mind -- nonse ...

Document Size:	6179
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 14:47:24 PST 2002

698 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

> > >The democratic centralists can now put plumes in their >hats and strut...IF their central committee permits >that kind of behavior. > >-Thomas > They would be doing so anyhow, no matter if twice as many showed up in DC to protest Bush's plans. The American oil companies have been wanting to get into Iraq to divvy up the oilfields (which they are prohibited from doing now) since the mid-90s. France, the Netherlands, Russia, and China and India (exploring) are already ...

Document Size:	5498
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 14:35:07 PST 2002

699 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marta Russell" <ap888 at lafn.org> > >-So where is their demo -- when is it scheduled? >-What are they getting done? > >These folks aren't necessarily antiwar activists-- they have homeless folks >or other issues to take care of and aren't going to drop that work. But >when they won't support a rally because of its alienating rhetoric, it's a >problem for the movement. Disabled people -ADAPT - have protests at l ...

Document Size:	9692
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 14:27:23 PST 2002

700 Fw: David Corn: troubling origins of the anti-war movement -- rank: 1000

>As the article makes clear, Corn is reflecting a lot of activists views who >debated endlessly whether they would even attend the event because of its >dominance by the WWP. When I know many activists with decades of >organizing experience who debated heavily on whether to attend, and many of >them decided not to, this means that even greater numbers of non-organizers >were not organized to attend. So where is their demo -- when is it scheduled? What are they getting done? & ...

Document Size:	10394
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri Nov 1 09:46:55 PST 2002

701 We're Number One! Re: Chomsky News Network -- rank: 1000

> OOPS I meant "patient." It is heretical in some circles to denounce public health programs but they have never been adequate. Medicare omits prescription drugs, etc. This is not to say that I am for the profit making health care industry as the solution, only to dis-illusion some that our public system is as good as those who cling to the welfare state as having provided a just solution. It has not SO far. marta >---- Original Message ----- > >The TV Nation story is fu ...

Document Size:	6068
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri May 31 09:54:06 PDT 2002

702 We're Number One! Re: Chomsky News Network -- rank: 1000

>----- Original Message ----- > >The TV Nation story is fun and right on, but it is too simple to just say >that those without insurance have no health care-- they have bad, >irrationally provided health care, which costs everyone way too much, but >the rhetoric of "no health care" is unconvincing because people know it's >not completely true. The poor get onto Medicaid -- as long as they don't >work hard and get them poorly paying job that rewards them by taki ...

Document Size:	5595
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri May 31 09:20:23 PDT 2002

703 Chomsky News Network -- rank: 1000

And the US has institutionalized disabled persons, it has segregated them from society. It has conducted medical experimentation on the institutionalized and supported sterilization of disabled persons (eugenics was popular here), segregated them in the public education system, coerced them out of the workforce, condemned them to poverty and all other horrors. Oh and then it has not enforced our supposed-civil rights. Marta >rut ro. you left out stuff about how the US oppressed women of all ...

Document Size:	8192
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Thu May 30 13:41:23 PDT 2002

704 Brock lunches with Hillary -- rank: 1000

>New York Post [Page Six] - May 24, 2002 > >Liberal lapdog > No one seemed concerned with cyber-gossip Matt Drudge's allegations >that Brock had suffered a breakdown and spent some days in a >psychiatric ward while he wrote his new book. Good that they didn't seem concerned. Just because one has a psychiatric issue does not necessarily make one incompetent, or "less than" they were. For the opposition to use one's mental history (or fabricate such a history) to dis ...

Document Size:	5200
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Fri May 24 09:11:25 PDT 2002

705 voting access -- rank: 1000

>> >>It ain't my revolution if it ain't accessible! There you have it. Michael Moore's book signing in Berkeley I understand was inaccessible. Doug being an exception, many leftists with a voice continue to ignore that radical politics need to embrace disability issues on all levels. Thanks for the post. I hesitate to post too much of this kind of thing, glad to see you do it. marta -- Marta Russell Los Angeles, CA www.disweb.org

Document Size:	4761
Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon May 20 15:44:24 PDT 2002