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601 [lbo-talk] Re: how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

> >Yes. I really don't like the general attacks on "the people." They seem >to me utterly pointless self-indulgences. Carol - I have to take issue with this. My criticism of Americans (and conclusion that we will never get anything much better to happen here) is that Americans won't challenge the empire in a way that threatens it. You cannot do this without a huge majority of people in this country. I am exasperated with the self righteousness of the American people who sit ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 17 11:22:16 PDT 2003

602 [lbo-talk] a shred of hope -- rank: 1000

Maybe but it took him a long time to get on it. The Dems are poised to make some of the most draconian cuts ever seen in this state. They are going to do that rather than tax business and tax the rich. Marta >Pretty much everything they can-- on that issue Davis has been loud >and harsh against the FERC and Bush. It was only that pressure that >forced the FERC to reconsider its earlier "no problem here" rulings. >California Dem leaders had launched a series of lawsuits aga ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 17 10:17:21 PDT 2003

603 [lbo-talk] RE: how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

Clinton may mean "oil" in the narrowest sense but the demonstrators I was with meant oil and empire. In the Iraq situation I don't think they are inseparable. One can't sit atop the empire without controlling what runs the military -- oil -- right? Marta >Well it would. That is why it is not going to happen. jks > >Marta Russell <ap888 at lafn.org> wrote: > > > >>The right slogan now I think would come from the >>following idea, simply stated: &quo ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 15:04:41 PDT 2003

604 [lbo-talk] a shred of hope -- rank: 1000

>Nathan: >Silly story quoted, since it ignores the Dems killing ANWR drilling, >filibustering Estrada, and slashing Bush's tax cut in the budget vote. But not enough slashing. Domestic programs will still be affected and this is the second time Bush has been conceded a tax cut. A true opposition party should have completely stopped it. Marta --

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 14:37:06 PDT 2003

605 [lbo-talk] RE: how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

The American people (majority of) will see it as we were wrong as that is usually what happens when the BS is unloaded on the public. If we are talking about building a movement I don't see how that will help. Further, if the UN prevails and does take over does that mean that the US won't get its way when it comes to the oil or the divvying up of the spoils of war anyway? Seems like that could become a good smoke screen -- the UN involvement did not stop Halliburton in the 91 war. Marta >He c ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 14:33:32 PDT 2003

606 [lbo-talk] RE: how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

> >The right slogan now I think would come from the >following idea, simply stated: "o.k., the war is >over, now it's time to bring the troops home. Leave >the reconstruction to international bodies." Clinton said that more or less on 60 Minutes sunday. But he added his rationale -- that would show the world that the US led war was not about oil. i.e., It would prove to all that the peaceniks had it all wrong from the get go. Marta --

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 10:59:55 PDT 2003

607 [lbo-talk] Alert from Peter Coyote on election rigging -- rank: 1000

It is heartening to see so many holding out hope for change. We are up against the "evil empire." So where is George Lucas? All those so invigorated better get started on this one. marta An Important Alert From Peter Coyote Dear Friends, I'm including a copy of a letter I sent to Barbara Boxer and my other representatives with the evidence accumulated of a potential 'November surprise'-- the rigging of the next Presidential vote by private, inaccessible, untransparent voting machines t ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 10:34:08 PDT 2003

608 [lbo-talk] "visibly-angered US military officials" -- rank: 1000

Published on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 by<http://www.afp.com> Agence France Presse Large Protests Greet US-Backed Talks on Post-Saddam Iraq Around 20,000 demonstrators converged on the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah to protest US-brokered talks aimed at sketching out a post-Saddam Hussein administration. The Pentagon said it was not yet prepared to declare victory after 26 days of war, but US commanders expressed hope Tuesday the main stage of hostilities was over with the fall of Saddam's ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 16 10:28:09 PDT 2003

609 [lbo-talk] RE: how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

>>> >> >>"Behind every no lay a passion for yes that had never been broken." >>- Wallace Stevens > >yah, but continually denying that there is a yes is what i'm getting at. :) > >that denial, is the same aporia embraced by enlightenment liberalism. More like a pipe dream. Yeses never become real without action - There are not enough committed to activism in the aggressor nation. And that must be laid at the feet of Americans since it is this natio ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 15 15:35:12 PDT 2003

610 [lbo-talk] how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

Pissed off. It makes me want to move to Europe. The right wing assholes have such a grip on the US the nation seems doomed to continue the militarism ad nauseum. It seems that the rest of my life is going to be consumed with trying to preserve what *little* we have left and talking to simpletons in the grocery line. I'm tired already. marta >The Times of London has asked me to do a piece on what it feels like >to be a peacenik (the editor's word, Carrol) in America today. I >more or les ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 15 15:11:51 PDT 2003

611 [lbo-talk] how's it feel? -- rank: 1000

It makes me want to move to Europe. The right wing assholes have such a grip on the US the nation seems doomed to continue the militarism ad nauseum. It seems that the rest of my life is going to be consumed with trying to preserve what *little* we have left and talking to simpletons in the grocery line. I'm tired already. marta >The Times of London has asked me to do a piece on what it feels like >to be a peacenik (the editor's word, Carrol) in America today. I >more or less know how I ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 15 15:09:18 PDT 2003

612 [lbo-talk] Last Tango in Baghdad -- rank: 1000

From: "Ed Pearl" <EPearl at sbcglobal.net> Good morning. Yesterday, I prepared the items below for sending to you. Since I left the house, around 3pm, I got literally a dozen or more emails desxribing a terrifying chaos in Iraq, with over 100 unopened emails to read. Soldiers ordering families with dying children to an endless circle of shuttered hospitals denied entrance by other troops, to tanks blasting open fortified bank doors and then calling in Arabic for people to go i ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 13 10:18:02 PDT 2003

613 [lbo-talk] Another firing in TV land -- rank: 1000

> 'Hitler' Exec Producer Fired Over Remarks > Thu, Apr 10, 2003 10:36 AM PDT > > LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - The executive producer of a CBS miniseries > about Adolf Hitler's rise to power has been fired after giving an > interview in which he compared the current mood of Americans to that of > the Germans who helped Hitler rise to power. > > According to The Hollywood Reporter, Gernon was fired Sunday (April 6) > from Alliance Atlantis, the production company making ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 10 19:29:36 PDT 2003

614 [lbo-talk] next... -- rank: 1000

The LA Times reported today that Rumsfeld thinks the missing WMDs may have been taken to Syria. They are setting it up again and here go the dumb Americans swallowing the bait. The LA Times displayed an appalling progandistic WE WON attitude. A HUGE picture of a smiling Rumsfeld, enough to make one vomit. The entire paper is full of the crap. Marta >Hawks Set Sights on Iran, Syria as Baghdad Falls >Thu Apr 10, 9:26 AM ET > >By Arshad Mohammed > >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Embolden ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 10 12:23:15 PDT 2003

615 [lbo-talk] Second American Peace activist shot -- rank: 1000

sorry if this was already posted. The emails on all lists are overwhelming. marta American Peace Activist Shot in West Bank .c The Associated Press JERUSALEM (AP) - An American peace activist working as a human shield in the West Bank was seriously wounded on Saturday when Israeli troops allegedly opened fire on him. Brian Avery, 24, from Albuquerque, N.M., heard shots fired and came out of his apartment building in Jenin to investigate just as an armored personnel carrier rounded a corner, sai ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 7 15:52:25 PDT 2003