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31 [lbo-talk] Did you see The New York Times Magazine? -- rank: 1000

This Sunday's cover story in The New York Times Magazine makes plain the threat: The winner of the 2008 presidential election could be decided by flawed, insecure, and hackable electronic voting machines. Congress is poised to consider a new emergency paper ballots bill next week but we'll have to convince them to act right away. I signed a petition urging local, state, and federal officials to require a paper trail for our votes. Can you join me at the link below? http://pol.moveon.org/pape ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Thu Jan 10 13:59:41 PST 2008

32 [lbo-talk] Edison says... -- rank: 1000

Fine, listen to Amy Goodman's show. Marta On Jan 10, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > Joe Lenski, research director of Edison Research - which does a lot > of exit polls, including New Hampshire - just posted this to the > AAPOR list, in response to some of the theories about vote count > manipulation circulating on the net. > >> I don't usually want to even discuss these unsubstantiated claims of >> election fraud. They are usually made by people who want to ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Thu Jan 10 12:40:01 PST 2008

33 [lbo-talk] AAPOR on New Hampshire Polls -- rank: 1000

On Jan 9, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Marta Russell wrote: > >> It seems they focus on the poll system only not the tabulation of >> votes. This email is from Marcy >> Winograd who ran for congress against Jane Harman. > > I don't get this. Did Hillary manipulate the Diebold count? I thought > Diebold was a Republican company. Did the Republicans manipulate it > because they thought Hillary is the weaker candidate? ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Thu Jan 10 11:19:29 PST 2008

34 [lbo-talk] AAPOR on New Hampshire Polls -- rank: 1000

On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > AAPOR statement -- > > In the wake of the New Hampshire primary, much press coverage has > been focused on the pre-election polls, in particular on the > Democratic presidential primary. Headlines indicate that pre-election > polls were misleading or wrong. Yes, all of the pre-election polls > showed Senator Obama ahead in the final pre-election polls. Clearly, > on this count, they all failed to reflect the eventual outco ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Wed Jan 9 15:38:47 PST 2008

35 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:11 AM, joseph noonan wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Marta Russell wrote: > >> Thanks for the valuable caution. How does one find the genuine >> product? He was talking about pre-1933 gold that is "untraceable." >> He is Jonathan Rose. >> Marta > > This Jonathan Rose? > > <http://capitalgoldgroupscam.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/capital-gold- > group-and-ceo-jonathan-rose-scam-busted/> > > -j > Yes, this must b ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Wed Jan 9 11:39:50 PST 2008

36 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Joanna wrote: > Marta Russell wrote: >> What about gold investing? I was told by someone who is trying to >> get me to buy gold bricks that gold has increased 30% a year for >> about 6 years now. He claims inflation is at about 11%. Is anyone >> buying gold or have any insights on that one? >> Marta >> > I bought at four hundred and happily watched it double. Opinion is > divided as to where it's going to go. > > ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Tue Jan 8 12:32:02 PST 2008

37 [lbo-talk] Anyone else hit by last nights storms? (Chicago, Kansas City etc.) -- rank: 1000

On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:36 AM, John Thornton wrote: > > I've already had the insurance claims adjuster here and I expect to > have > the roofers here tomorrow so along with no injuries I'm pretty > lucky myself. > > John Thornton > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk > John, I am glad you are still with us. Marta

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Tue Jan 8 12:18:18 PST 2008

38 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

On Jan 8, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:28 AM, Marta Russell wrote: > >> But what do you say to those who claim the dollar is going to >> collapse and gold will not? > > It wouldn't surprise me if the dollar ended the year higher than it > is now. Everyone's saying the dollar has to decline, so that may well > mean it won't. > > Doug > Doesn't China hold the strings on this one since Scrub used China's money to finance ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Tue Jan 8 10:38:51 PST 2008

39 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

And didn't Nixon go off the gold standard to avoid a collapse of the dollar? Then came the oil standard, which Kissinger and all used to prop up the dollar, no? Marta The theory for gold is that the dollar is weak and going down. Gold will remain an international currency as other nations have preserved the gold standard even though the US didn't. Marta On Jan 7, 2008, at 4:41 PM, John S Costello wrote: > This sounds like a scam to me. Why would you want untraceable gold? > If you wa ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 21:42:42 PST 2008

40 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

On Jan 7, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > > Don't most people buy warehouse certificates rather than physical > gold? Unless they're clinically paranoid? > >> If you do that with a coin, you've lost any premium it might have had >> for being collectable. But you also might have made it an expensive >> proposition to get someone to buy it, because now it doesn't have any >> markings from a producer that's known well enough. ".9999 HENWOOD'S ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 21:37:17 PST 2008

41 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

You hear ads for buying gold on Air America all the time -- isn't that a Pwogwessive station? Marta On Jan 7, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 8:34 PM, John Thornton wrote: > >> Goldbugs are strange people. > > Extremely. I went to a gathering of them once, many years ago. > Weirder group than the Left Forum, though obviously better-heeled. > > Doug > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinf ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 21:30:28 PST 2008

42 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

But what do you say to those who claim the dollar is going to collapse and gold will not? Marta On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:34 PM, John Thornton wrote: > > White gold is harder to work with so avoid it. > Actually the whole idea of doing this for anything except fun is > probably best avoided as well. > Goldbugs are strange people. > > John Thornton > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk >

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 21:28:45 PST 2008

43 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

The theory for gold is that the dollar is weak and going down. Gold will remain an international currency as other nations have preserved the gold standard even though the US didn't. Marta On Jan 7, 2008, at 4:41 PM, John S Costello wrote: > This sounds like a scam to me. Why would you want untraceable gold? > If you want physical gold you can just buy Krugerrands (or your local > mint's version of the same -- Canada will sell you a 100kg gold coin > if you like --http://www.cbc. ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 21:26:10 PST 2008

44 [lbo-talk] 12%, plus -- rank: 1000

Thanks for the valuable caution. How does one find the genuine product? He was talking about pre-1933 gold that is "untraceable." He is Jonathan Rose. Marta On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: >> What about gold investing? > > All precious metals have been doing well lately for a variety of > reasons; gold has gone from $350/oz to $850/oz in the last 5 years. > Past performance is no guarantee of future results. > >> I was told by someone who ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 16:23:57 PST 2008

45 [lbo-talk] further evidence of Obama's bogosity CORRECTION -- rank: 1000

It was Kermit Jr., the grandson who worked for the CIA. Marta On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > Ach, so! Last nite, during a break in the far more interesting > Jaguar- > Steeler > debate, I took a glimpse at the Dumbocrats in New Hampshire. There > was > the Radical Populist Mr. Edwards bloviating (a word coined by a > greatly > misunderestimated statesman, Warren Harding) about what a great model > fighter for the People was Teddy Roosevelt, that arc ...

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Author:	Marta Russell
Date:	Mon Jan 7 15:06:20 PST 2008