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661 [lbo-talk] Marx without quotation marks -- rank: 1000

Thanks to Jim and Robert for drawing attention to the links between Marx and Foucault. I would stress Foucault's departure from Marx as well as his continuity. If you compare the Chapter on the Bloody Legislation of the Fifteenth Century in Marx, he draws rather different conclusions from Foucault's on the importance of institutions of repression. Where Foucault makes the prison the model for the factory, Marx's point is different. He says that less developed society depends on direct coercion b ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 31 13:18:23 PDT 2009

662 [lbo-talk] Anarchist Cookbook 2? -- rank: 1000

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:40 AM, James Heartfield <Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> Leeds anarchist Tony Earnshaw used to tell a story about the IWW, that they tested their loyalty in a salmon cannery, by running a campaign where all the luxury salmon was given the standard labels, and the standard salmon, the luxury labels. Andy replied >Was there any difference in the contents? Yes, I think that was the point of the action, the toffs got the rubbish, and the proles the ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Mon Mar 30 11:33:53 PDT 2009

663 [lbo-talk] Anarchist Cookbook 2? -- rank: 1000

Leeds anarchist Tony Earnshaw used to tell a story about the IWW, that they tested their loyalty in a salmon cannery, by running a campaign where all the luxury salmon was given the standard labels, and the standard salmon, the luxury labels.

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Sun Mar 29 23:40:22 PDT 2009

664 [lbo-talk] Marx quote: King, Subjects -- rank: 1000

Can anyone help me out with the source and correct wording for Marx's quote to the effect that the king thinks we are his subjects because he is the king, but in fact he is the king because we are his subjects? Thanks James Heartfield

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Author:	heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk
Date:	Fri Mar 13 08:19:39 PDT 2009

665 [lbo-talk] more Americans deny reality -- rank: 1000

How many years left to save the planet? Five, according to the World Wildlife Fund in 2007 (i.e. by 2012) http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641265731?f=rss Seven according to Bill McGuire in 2008 (i.e. by 2015) http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/sep/20/politics.roundupreviews Eight, according to Andrew Simm in 2008, (i.e. by 2016) http://onehundredmonths.org/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/aug/01/climatechange.carbonemissions Ten according to Sir Nichol ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Mar 11 16:05:44 PDT 2009

666 [lbo-talk] sex at the margins -- rank: 1000

'where does the "capitalist point of view," which he confidently disclosed yesterday, get formed' Not wishing to speak for Comrade Cox, I would have thought the above was obvious. That's what the political process is. 'The dominant ideas of the age are ever those of the ruling class' (Marx, from memory).

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Mar 11 15:50:24 PDT 2009

667 [lbo-talk] German school gunman 'kills 16' -- rank: 1000

Mark Bennett wrote "I believe there have been several of such in the Mother Country." I remember the Dunblaine massacre guy (Thomas Hamilton?) and one bipolar bloke that flipped in a nursery with a machete - but not that many. Is it still called "going postal"?

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Mar 11 15:46:41 PDT 2009

668 [lbo-talk] Italy, was, it's over - now the destruction begins -- rank: 1000

Not arguing with your main point (that the correlation between creative destruction in the 1930s and the post war boom is not strong) the example of Italy shows that raw output numbers only say so much. As many have shown (see Vera Zamagni, for eg) Italy's growth in output was good, but the development was definitely very problematic. The south was chronically under-developed, heamorraghing (sp.?) surplus labour, the site of an oversized rural economy. The north, where all the industry was, face ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 10 16:11:40 PDT 2009

669 [lbo-talk] it's over - now the destruction really begins -- rank: 1000

Wojtek writes "Historically, working class was far more likely to fall for nationalism than for socialism, let alone internationalism" Really? From what I've read, the National Socialist Party's membership and voters were heavily skewed towards students, petit bourgeois types, and peasants, whereas most industrial workers voted Socialist (and not a few for the KPD). There was a problem of national chauvinism in the socialist movement (which is what Lenin addressed), but as he argued, t ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 10 11:52:52 PDT 2009

670 [lbo-talk] it's over - now the destruction really begins -- rank: 1000

Doug, on comparative figures of 1930s GDP: "So, the depression was deepest and longest in the U.S. and Germany. Italy, Japan, and the UK got off fairly lightly." Yes, that is interesting. Interesting too that of those that got off lightly, Britain and Italy were both lacklustre performers in the post-war era - demonstrating perhaps that where Schumpeterian 'creative destruction' (or what comrade Bond would call capital devalorisation) went deeper, the recovery was stronger. Let it be ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 10 11:44:00 PDT 2009

671 [lbo-talk] The Zombie IRA -- rank: 1000

The Zombie IRA The attacks in Northern Ireland are not a rerun of the past but rather an Irish variant of the inchoate terrorism of the twenty-first century, writes Brendan O'Neill http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6338/

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 10 11:31:32 PDT 2009

672 [lbo-talk] "IRA" Attacks on British Army Base. -- rank: 1000

I would not see the 'dissident' IRA attacks as symptom of any economic troubles, as Philip does. More to the point is the utter dead end of the so-called Peace Process, which only serves to institutionalise sectarian divisions in the six counties of northern Ireland. Under the rigid peace process framework, neither community has an interest in doing anything but digging in, and both are put in a position where they are rewarded for keeping their respective communities mobilised around a competit ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Sun Mar 8 14:56:12 PDT 2009

673 [lbo-talk] The myth of homophobia -- rank: 1000

Philkington: > I don't buy it. First off, in my opinion every > "psychological" reaction is > constituted or at very least given its meaning by some sort > of "social" > force. you will be saying God is real next

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Sun Mar 1 16:05:05 PST 2009

674 [lbo-talk] The myth of homophobia (was Pansy Power) -- rank: 1000

I thought Carrol's explication of the meaning of Marx's epigram 'The anatomy of man is the key to the anatomy of the ape' was very good. But just to go one further, we could ask not just whether homophobia existed in past eras, but also whether it exists today. My friend Pete Ray wrote this seventeen years ago, arguing that homphobia is itself a myth, because it takes a social force and turns it into a psychological reaction: The myth of homophobia Peter Ray examines why there is such hostility ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Sun Mar 1 12:53:52 PST 2009

675 [lbo-talk] pansy power -- rank: 1000

When I was a boy, I read the strip "Pansy Potter, the strong man's daughter" (it rhymes in Aberdeen, where most of the British funnies were made). It was in the Sparky, I think. Pansy would be dismissed as useless by some boys or men, and then end up bending the steel lampost over, or some similar superhuman exercise of strength, thereby ridiculing her scoffers, usually by mistake or out of naivety, rather than ill-will. She looked a bit like Dennis the Menace (UK version), with a blac ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Sun Mar 1 07:25:02 PST 2009