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2701 BRC debate -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.1.32.19980629095216.0112cf4c at popserver.panix.com>, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> writes >Rakesh has a tendency to blow up. Oh come on. You'll be saying that he has a chip on his shoulder next. As if you haven't got a tendency to blow up. As if Carrol's posting was not rude and abusive. And then this other-worldly contribution: >The sort of politics that Rakesh is espousing is rooted in the Marxist >backlash against black nationalism which began in the ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jun 29 07:23:58 PDT 1998

2702 BRC debate -- rank: 1000

So let me get this right. The sum effect of our debate over the BRC was that Rakesh, for failing to wholy endorse the BRC was denounced as a naive racist and resigned, leaving us a little closer to being an exclusively white list. Happy? Incidentally, on Keynes and the Nazis, wasn't his book published in Germany with a key Nazi writing the preface? -- Jim heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jun 29 06:16:53 PDT 1998

2703 'universalism' (was Re: Asia and hormones) -- rank: 1000

In message <v04011705b1ba3d1d177b@[128.146.5.200]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >Mat Forstater writes: >>There was a lot of talk on the list with regard to the BRC >>employing the term "universalist." (By the way, the Albert or Hahnel piece >>that said first there was class and then Black liberation came along in >>the mid-sixties obliterates 500+ years of African liberation struggles. > >I very much agree with Mat Forst ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jun 27 03:26:22 PDT 1998

2704 entrenched identities -- rank: 1000

In the thread on entrenched identities, I read 1 some rather self-conscious disavowals of racism, 2 ostentatious denunications of the left's record, 3 'why oh why won't they listen?'-style hand-wringing 4 Intolerant denunciations of anyone who does not fall down prostrate in agreement I get the feeling that I am reading something other than anti-racism. This is the sound of liberal white guilt, not real solidarity. Like all guilt, it is motivated not by a genuine interest in resolving problems, ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Jun 25 13:42:41 PDT 1998

2705 evolution of black radical thought -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130311b1b80fdfb9b6@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >This post from Lou Proyect accuses Rakesh of >pontificating of being > willful of having >zero knowledge and >poorly formed impressions >which are stoked by your emotions, and filled with ignorance. Finally, Louis offers >To assist you in focusing your thoughts, Louis' courage in refusing to curb his points, for fear of appearing to promote a racial stereotype of the ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Jun 25 09:01:15 PDT 1998

2706 against 'entrenched identities' -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130302b1b7fbc0fdca@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >I'm at a loss to understand why so >many Marxists view categories of race, gender, and sexuality as mere >"identities," as if they were purely subjective and not socially and >materially lived. Don't these categories have a lot to do with how labor is >divided and access to property organized, to pick two things that are >(rightly) dear to the hearts of histori ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Jun 25 07:29:34 PDT 1998

2707 Libertarian communists? -- rank: 1000

>On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Louis Proyect wrote: > >> >> I still have no idea what a libertarian communist is. I know what >> libertarianism is, it's the sort of thing that the Cato Institute promotes. >> And then, as far as communism is concerned, that's what Che Guevara stood >> for. And Lenin and Rosa Luxemburg. I never heard people like that describe >> themselves as libertarians. Is this some new trend that I have to keep up >> with? Come on, Rakesh ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed Jun 24 13:38:43 PDT 1998

2708 request -- rank: 1000

I am trying to get together a reading list for a discussion about oppression, rights and freedom today. I am interested in any newer texts, either critiques of formal freedoms, or defences, or redefinitions of traditional ideas. I am particularly interested in theoretically demanding works. (So for example, I want to include Catharine Mackinnon's Feminist theory of the State and Carole Pateman's Sexual Contract, for example, but also some newer works). I wnat some right-wing stuff, and orthodox ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed Jun 24 09:49:13 PDT 1998

2709 Asia and hormones -- rank: 1000

In message <v03102807b1b5311bc88a@[128.146.5.15]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >How about making it a rule that those who use those terms must specify and >explain what exactly they mean by those terms _and_ offer examples that are >not mere anecdotes? They had better explain what 'identity' is as well. Here comes the union bureaucrat with the rule book in hand 'sorry comrade but that subject cannot be raised here!' >Max S, Eric Alterman, etc. use 'po ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue Jun 23 11:27:23 PDT 1998

2710 Black Radical Congress and "the Left" -- rank: 1000

In message <199806221858.NAA26632 at rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, Carrol Cox <cbcox at rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes > I am >having a hard time understanding why it can't be grasped. >and how >many times must this be stated in how many ways? >frustrating to see so many on this list plunge ahead with attacks >without, apparently, having the least familiarity >REPEAT, WITHIN >As long as leftist circles are >cluttered with the likes of whatever nut >such troglodyt ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jun 22 14:42:14 PDT 1998

2711 Black Radical Congress and "the Left" -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130306b1b427a6ad6e@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Rakesh Bhandari wrote: > >>A couple of black men I know have been organizers for the AFLCIO (one >>has quit > >Speaking of which, does anyone know why Richard Bensinger got the boot as >AFL-CIO organizing director? Interestingly the leader of the Transport and General Workers' Union in Britain, Morris, is an afro-Carribean, which would have been unheard of du ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jun 22 10:04:54 PDT 1998

2712 left conservatism -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130304b1b2dade33a8@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Jim heartfield wrote: > >>Racial and sexual oppression are indeed premissed upon relations of >>production. However, identity politics does not find its foundation upon >>those divisions, but on the consumption of the surplus. I don't see the >>Women's studies courses related in any way but the most tangential to >>the oppression of women. On the contra ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Jun 21 14:04:12 PDT 1998

2713 left conservatism -- rank: 1000

In message <001c01bd9c78$4d6f72c0$a380b1cd at maxhome>, Max Sawicky <sawicky at epinet.org> writes >Then Cmd. Heartfield surprizes. >>2. A preference for state action over independent initiative > >Lear's query is relevant. JH protests that state >and collective need not coincide. Nonsense. Institutionalized >collective action is just another word for government. Now, >for a given area more than one government may exist, and their >functions may overlap ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Jun 21 04:16:02 PDT 1998

2714 Fritz Thyssen -- rank: 1000

Further on the martyrdom of Fritz Thyssen: Thyssen died in 1951 in Argentina. -- Jim heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jun 20 08:56:14 PDT 1998

2715 Iraq and depleted Uranium -- rank: 1000

In message <B03898593BC0D011A5B50060973D0F5C5665D2 at rlm_exch1.rlmnet.com> , Carl Remick <cremick at rlmnet.com> writes > Re Jim Heartfield's observation: "Quite real atrocities were >suffered by Iraqi soldiers and civilians alike. Continuing health >problems arising from depleted Uranium shells and other chemical weapons >used by the allies continue to be a real health hazard in the Gulf." > > I have seen coverage, on the London-based ITN Wor ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jun 20 05:21:46 PDT 1998