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2686 Cars and Factory Work (was Cars and Victorians) -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.1.32.19980507085648.01174ca4 at popserver.panix.com>, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> writes >A worldwide socialist planning board would >calculate how many cars would be ecologically sustainable and we would be >entitled to a certain number of credit miles that you would use annually >until they were exhausted. You want to convene an international conference to watch Russ's milometer? Louis' version of socialism seems to mean more traffic cops studiousl ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu May 7 07:18:31 PDT 1998

2687 cultural politics/"real" politics -- rank: 1000

In message <2.2.16.19980506181909.129f959a at pop.igc.org>, Michael Eisenscher <meisenscher at igc.apc.org> writes >I am not British and have not been to England, but I have been in touch with >and part of the solidarity struggle on behalf of the Liverpool Dockers. >Those whom I have met touring here in the States have certainly demonstrated >more than a little class consciousness. It seems improbable to me that they >would have been able to maintain their struggle fo ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu May 7 02:18:57 PDT 1998

2688 Road rage -- rank: 1000

Well, well. I never realised what a rich seam of sociological material lay underneath the car bonnet (that's hood to Americans). First off all the car critics are car users: 'Its not that easy' says Doug, 'its a sad necessity' says Wojtek, 'my typical is 13.5 miles a day' says Michael. I suppose I could say that now I know whose fumes I'm choking on, but then I always knew that car regret was not meant to be acted upon, but more of a mood. And what is the content of this mood? Doug is exhausted ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu May 7 01:40:00 PDT 1998

2689 rural idiocy>suburbanisation -- rank: 1000

Doug and Charles raise the issue of the exclusivity of the suburbs I did some research on suburbanisation in the US for Kofi Buenor Hadjor's great book Another America: The politics of race and blame (south End Press, 1995). When I first looked at the question of white flight, I, like Doug, thought of the suburbs as an essentially exclusivist development. And so they were: its is undeniable that the HOLC policies favoured the development of an informal apartheid. And, as Kevin Phillips gloated i ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed May 6 11:42:33 PDT 1998

2690 Cars and Victorians -- rank: 1000

In message <1.5.4.32.19980505230551.006ab5d4 at albatros.cnb.net>, Thomas Kruse <tkruse at albatros.cnb.net> writes >Tho' since we're coming clean, I should probabaly admit I have a bike AND a >car ... in fact one of those 4 wheel drives Doug hates, tho' not a suburban >assualt vehicle, just a Daihatsu, a poor cousin of the Toyota. I guess I >could justify the extra traction and clearance with dire acounts of unpaved >roads, etc. Which is funny really, because I don't ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed May 6 02:43:23 PDT 1998

2691 rural idiocy -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130308b17502160d97@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Jim heartfield wrote: > >>Come on guys! Look honestly into your own consciences and come clean: >>its not the cars that irritate you, its those pushy plebs in them. > >What pisses me off most about the vehicular culture is smug fathead >suburbanites in their sport utility vehicles. Are they "pushy plebs" in you >book? Well, thanks for coming clean. ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue May 5 11:35:24 PDT 1998

2692 rural idiocy -- rank: 1000

I wrote The class character of the anti-car movement here is written in their home county accents. It is entirely characteristic that forms of working class mobility should be the subject of middle class panics. On cue come Doug, Wojtek and Michael... In message <l03130305b174f05ce1c6@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Autoparasites. Killer cars. In message <3.0.1.32.19980505121130.00a38368 at jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, Wojtek Sokolowski <sokol at jh ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue May 5 10:32:32 PDT 1998

2693 cultural politics/"real" politics -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130319b173a79a8c27@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Jim heartfield wrote: > >>What I am reacting against is the mood that sees working class >>consumption as profligacy and waste, but middle class consumption as an >>earnest and imaginative investigation of desire. >> >>Hence my attitude to the car. > >I'm not sure how you're class-angling the car Jim. "Middle class" people, >whoever t ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue May 5 01:49:38 PDT 1998

2694 Replies: "Better times" cannot sustain stock prices -- rank: 1000

In message <l0313031cb173a924e8da@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >If you're sitting in London or New York and cashing interest and dividend >checks, you don't care about the crisis as long as the checks don't bounce. >Moving the crisis around - i.e., moving it Southwards, or down the social >hierarchy - is just fine by the Council on Foreign Relations, no? >Especially if you've got a layer of friends in the zones of displacement >getti ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue May 5 01:57:58 PDT 1998

2695 cultural politics/"real" politics -- rank: 1000

In message <l03130303b17269e28d1d@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >And what about this surplus? In capitalist societies, that surplus is very >unevenly distributed, and fucking-with-identity, or even thinking about it, >is a marker of privilege. But wouldn't you like to see that privilege >spread around a bit? Oh yes of course, though I suppose it would not be privilege then. What I am reacting against is the mood that sees working class cons ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon May 4 05:57:59 PDT 1998

2696 "Better times" cannot sustain stock prices -- rank: 1000

In message <354CB684.14ABCC7D at netcomuk.co.uk>, Mark Jones <Jones_M at netcomuk.co.uk> writes >The problem I have with K-waves is that there is no more evidence that they >exist than that you get showers in April. I read Patrick's piece but I still >don't believe in it. What's happening in the US is the flipside of what's not >happening elsewhere and anyway is influenced, I think, by the ongoing rewards >from winning the Cold War. Just where is the technology for a n ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon May 4 08:08:32 PDT 1998

2697 cultural politics/"real" politics -- rank: 1000

In message <v03102801b1713bee5d4c@[128.146.43.48]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >Jim Heartfield's post seems to treat the terms 'cultural politics,' >'politics of desire,' 'identity theory,' etc. interchangeably. I don't >think that they mean the same thing. I agree that they are not the same thing, but rather are related concepts, related because they capture aspects of one whole - unproductive consumption of the surplus. >The above speaks of the rel ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun May 3 10:58:42 PDT 1998

2698 cultural politics/"real" politics -- rank: 1000

This is a section of a pamphlet I've been working on about the Politics of Desire which seemed to fall into the proposed category cultural politics/"real" politics. Comments/criticisms welcome. The politics of desire In The Accursed Share (Zone Books, 1988), Georges Bataille set out the premises of what was to become the politics of desire. Bataille takes as his starting point the creation of a surplus and its disruptive impact on the social order. In the first volume Bataille derive ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri May 1 14:53:53 PDT 1998

2699 brief comment on Jim and the Rakesh affair was Re: BRC debate -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.5.32.19980630171947.00e48bc0 at pop.qut.edu.au>, Gary MacLennan <g.maclennan at qut.edu.au> writes >Jeezzus Jim, you have the knack of getting right up my nose just when I had >started to think you were half a human. Sorry, I guess I'm just built that way. -- Jim 'half-way human' heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue Jun 30 07:05:26 PDT 1998

2700 What 1960s black nationalists believed -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.1.32.19980629111007.012b0728 at popserver.panix.com>, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> writes >More and more we see black people in this country being used as a tool of >the white liberal establishment. >Too long have we allowed white people to interpret the importance and >meaning of the cultural aspects of our society. We have allowed them to >tell us what was good about our Afro-American music, art, and literature. Of which one must say that never a ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jun 29 12:01:52 PDT 1998