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2416 Malcolm X and SNCC -- rank: 1000

In message <Pine.SUN.3.91.990104174255.29996O-100000 at igc.apc.org>, Art McGee <amcgee at igc.org> writes >In the end, the only people with the real say are those who he had the >most influence over, Black people, and they frankly don't care anymore >what most "white" Leftists have to say. I don't know if I care to see "white" turned into an insult, any more than "black". Is Art saying that black people care what black leftists have to say? (I ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue Jan 5 04:13:20 PST 1999

2417 -Dead Horse Uber Alles -- rank: 1000

Before the New Year I wrote "Such things as 'facts' are instantaneously suspect to sociologists who proceed to bore us rigid with the schoolboy profundity that people tend to disagree over the facts (a discovery that they think is new)." "Before you know where you are the very word 'facts' is spat out with a precocious ironic sneer, as if one only had to say the word to ridicule the poor naive who actually believes that there might be some things on which we could agree." I w ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Jan 4 12:40:22 PST 1999

2418 there's no such thing as positivism -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.2.32.19990103084312.00fc10f4 at pop.gn.apc.org>, Chris Burford <cburford at gn.apc.org> writes >Going back to Jim H's original post, I do not doubt that logical >positivists were intelligent enough to allow verbally for the limits of >observable reality, but the philosophical enemy is surely better defined as >empricism. What's wrong with empiricism? -- Jim heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Jan 3 03:17:04 PST 1999

2419 I feel so dirty. -- rank: 1000

In message <v04011701b2b3c1fa4359@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes > >Uh, James, just what's ludic about Bill Gates? Clinton may like his >blowjobs and pizza, but he's still a loyal servant of Wall Street and the >Fortune 500. Neither seems very lazy to me either. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but my point was that the sixties generation in the white house was just as capitalistic as the world war generation. The both seem inordinately lazy to ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Jan 3 03:13:23 PST 1999

2420 the Butler did it (was cheap computers) -- rank: 1000

In message <XFMail.990102133731.cgrimes at tsoft.com>, Chuck Grimes <cgrimes at tsoft.com> writes > >I just read that Louis Proyect is going to post something on AE, the >CIA, and so on. And this from Jim Heartfield: > >"I remember reading that Greenberg, a one-time Trotskyist, was, like >many proponents of the abstract expressionist movement sponsored by >the Central Intelligence Agency, in its ongoing struggle against >'soviet-inspired' socialist realis ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jan 2 17:02:06 PST 1999

2421 the Butler did it (was cheap computers) -- rank: 1000

In message <199901020636.XAA16233 at smtp02.primenet.com>, Doyle Saylor <djsaylor at primenet.com> writes > Doyle > As to aesthetic theory, have you ever read Rosalind Krauss (The > Optical Unconscious, MIT Press 1994)?  She is a former associate of > Clement Greenberg, when Krauss was a grad student, and who did a > little work for him as a trusted aide.  Greenberg was the art > critic of the Nation Magazine.  Anyway, Krauss wrote this POMO book & ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jan 2 06:21:45 PST 1999

2422 there's no such thing as positivism -- rank: 1000

In message <368A4B3A.E5C79EE1 at netlink.com.au>, rc&am <rcollins at netlink.com.au> objects to my argument that a rejection of objectivity would lead one to abandon Marx's critique of capitalism. But that seems unavoidably to be the case as far as I can see. It is interesting that neo-classical economics has been cited as an example of what positivism is, as if its scientific pretensions were proof of the objectivistic caste of contemporary theory. But it should be said that Mar ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jan 2 06:09:50 PST 1999

2423 British Labor Leaders -- rank: 1000

In message <368D3111.FB57A4BB at lor.net>, Tom Lehman <TLEHMAN at lor.net> writes > As far a Arthur Scargill goes, I'm glad to >hear his gimmick is he was a "young communist". I wouldn't say 'gimmick'. The Communist Party was influential in the NUM in the fifties and sixties when Scargill was winning his spurs as a compensation agent for the Union. They organised the left minority in the Union. When Scargill won the presidency it was still the infrastructure that the ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Jan 2 04:07:56 PST 1999

2424 British Labor Leaders -- rank: 1000

In message <368CFAF1.93D44032 at lor.net>, Tom Lehman <TLEHMAN at lor.net> writes > >Now for what I do know. Arthur Scargill is the president of the British >mine workers union. True, but the National Union of Mineworkers is a shadow of its former self. Once a quarter of a million mineworkers were members of the NUM. But following the pit closure programme [another word we spell differently] the NUM was reduced to a few thousand. This historic destruction of the mining indu ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Jan 1 10:39:18 PST 1999

2425 I feel so dirty. -- rank: 1000

In message <368BE00B.576B at gte.net>, Paul Henry Rosenberg <rad at gte.net> writes >The fact is, materialism DOES have it limits. The hippies were one >expression of that realization, and look how much a couple thousand of >them scared the bejezus out of the big cigars, until a new wave of >bc-wannabees showed how readily hippiehood and its spin-offs could be >marketed to the millions. > >It's one thing to have the have-nots revolt against a system that >exp ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Jan 1 05:02:00 PST 1999

2426 Genetically Modified (GM) Food -- rank: 1000

Roger and Doug both raise the proper objection to GMO foods that the science is developed for profit, not directly for human good. I agree. But then, since 1989 at least, pretty much everything on this Earth is done for profit, and only as an inconsistent by-product for human good. People are housed for profit, medicines are developed for profit, food is grown for profit, computers are built and sold for profit, incubators are provided for premature babies for profit. Should we then have a morat ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Feb 28 11:49:57 PST 1999

2427 Genetically Modified (GM) Food -- rank: 1000

In message <36D8111A.B9E3FDCE at ecst.csuchico.edu>, Michael Perelman <michael at ecst.csuchico.edu> writes >Jim Heartfield's take on genetically modified food is indistinguishable from >Monsanto's response. Michael Perelman's response to me indistinguishable from the British Conservative Party's to Monsanto (or from the Catholic Church's response to Galileo, for that matter). So what? Either you have an argument or you don't. The capitalist makers of nicorettes tell me I shoul ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Feb 28 03:49:09 PST 1999

2428 'socialism of fools' -- rank: 1000

Does anyone have a reference, or better still some context, for German Socialist August Bebel's comment that "Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools" (1893?). -- Jim heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Feb 27 08:16:31 PST 1999

2429 German workers: We want Greenspan! -- rank: 1000

In message <Pine.PMDF.3.95.990227012600.539019627A- 100000 at OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>, Dennis R Redmond <dredmond at OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> writes >Hardly. Deutschland ain't any more racist or xenophobic than the USA. They >have skinhead thugs, we have the KKK and survivalists, etc. Germans do, >however, have this tendency to constantly insist that they're much worse >than anyone else -- it's why they're so pro-European, which is a good >thing, but you have to take the Weltsc ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Feb 27 06:27:47 PST 1999

2430 Genetically Modified (GM) Food -- rank: 1000

In message <36D777D7.713D at concentric.net>, W. Kiernan <WKiernan at concentric.net> writes >As though it's "scaremongering" to be extremely wary about the >unexpected and unpredicatable effects of modifying the genes of food >plants. Half the world's in a mad panic over the Y2K bug in computer >software. For crying out loud, there are people who worry seriously >about things like eMail spam. But when a company comes along and starts >diddling with the ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sat Feb 27 04:37:19 PST 1999