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2356 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <s76f776d.034 at mail.ci.detroit.mi.us>, Charles Brown <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes >Charles: Yes, historical materialist. I use cultural as synonymous with socio- >historical. In an argument between genetic explanations and cultural >explanations of war, historical materialists side with the culturalists , don't >you think ? Well, I suppose you could use black as synonymous with white if you wanted to. This is not an argument between genetic expl ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 22 12:30:48 PDT 1999

2357 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <s76e23d2.026 at mail.ci.detroit.mi.us>, Charles Brown <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes > >If war and violence are not culturally caused, how are they caused ? I didn't take you for a Weberian, Charles, I would have thought that you would have located the drive towards war in a more materialist explanation, like the division and redivision of the world economy in the epoch of imperialism. But, hey, if you really think it's really all down to patriarchy then ...

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Date:	Mon Jun 21 13:41:33 PDT 1999

2358 laws of capitalism (jim o'connor) -- rank: 1000

In message <v02130501630bd9e7e458@[128.112.70.38]>, Rakesh Bhandari <bhandari at phoenix.Princeton.EDU> writes >How about >this from Preobrazhensky: ... >In the Decline of Capitalism (ME Sharpe, 1985). I thought this was a great disappointment after Preobrazhensky's three excellent books on the NEP. In fact I can see know why Day's own book The Crisis and the Crash is so flawed - he takes the account of crisis as disproportionality from P.'s book as the definitive account of ...

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Date:	Mon Jun 21 00:59:52 PDT 1999

2359 Solomon Islands -- rank: 1000

In message <000e01bebba3$86717b40$74e13ecb at rcollins>, rc-am <rcollins at netlink.com.au> writes >[yugoslavia is not the only part of the world carving itself up into 'ethnic >enclaves'. one can only guess what interesting mechanisms for entrenching >such divisions rabuaka brings to the table. -- angela] This is an odd formulation. Yugoslavia is the only part of the former republic of Yugoslavia that is ethnically mixed. Croatia, Slovenia, and Kosova all being defined i ...

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Date:	Mon Jun 21 00:56:10 PDT 1999

2360 Ros Coward on Feminism's hostility to men -- rank: 1000

>From today's Sunday Times The feminist who fights for the boys In the past few years, I have become very disillusioned with feminism. In fact, I found myself more and more uncomfort-able with calling myself a feminist, which is strange because feminism has been incredibly important to me; it was my intellectual and political formation. Yet after 20 years of feeling that it was a struggle growing up as a girl and fighting hard for women's rights, I realised that I no longer accepted the femin ...

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2361 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <v04011706b391755ea34e@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes > >I guess the U.S. is very different from Europe, because here women are less >warlike, more in favor of social spending, and generally to the "left" of >men on almost all issues. I'm not so sure. I suspect that the figures you show could be reproduced in Britain, or the rest of Europe today. But I was looking back over the century. It was a consequence of the fact t ...

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Date:	Sun Jun 20 12:34:30 PDT 1999

2362 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <199906190155.VAA04428 at panix2.panix.com>, G*rd*n <gcf at panix.com> writes >kelley <d-m-c at worldnet.att.net>: >> > i still don't think men are inherently >> >violent. it's clearly something that is learned and connected to power >> >dynamics that take place in the family, at work, in academe. no i'm not a >> >cultural determinist...did i say all men were violent? > >Jim heartfield: >> Yes, I think you just did ...

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2363 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.3.32.19990618180947.006c5b48 at postoffice.worldnet.att.net >, kelley <d-m-c at worldnet.att.net> writes > i still don't think men are inherently >violent. it's clearly something that is learned and connected to power >dynamics that take place in the family, at work, in academe. no i'm not a >cultural determinist...did i say all men were violent? Yes, I think you just did - or at least it was an exception to the rule. You list a lot of abusers - would th ...

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2364 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.6.32.19990618124154.007c4630 at pop.bc.sympatico.ca>, dhorne at bc.sympatico.ca writes >At 08:28 AM 6/17/1999 +0100, you wrote: >>In message <3.0.3.32.19990616205443.00703234 at postoffice.worldnet.att.net >>>, kelley <d-m-c at worldnet.att.net> writes >>> it's quite clear to me >>>that an 11 year old might be easily capable of rape. >> >>Really? Would you say that an eleven year old was capable of murder? >> &g ...

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2365 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.3.32.19990617075558.00719b14 at postoffice.worldnet.att.net >, kelley <d-m-c at worldnet.att.net> writes after I said >It is a >>natural development from the underlying assumption in much feminist >>literature first that the barrier to women's emancipation is men (or >>'patriarchy') and second that men are inherently violent. With those >>assumptions, it is natural to take the direction that Roiphe describes. > >as to the first part, y ...

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2366 Unemployment 4.2% -- rank: 1000

In message <v04011728b38efada4765@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Chris Burford wrote: > >>Today the UK government announces the lowest unemployment figures since >>1980. Should we be pleased? Or worried? > >The UK employment figures are a joke, no? Didn't Thatcher change the >definition something like 30 times to make them look lower? They're based >on benefit registrations and not a household survey, right? They were syst ...

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2367 katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.3.32.19990616205443.00703234 at postoffice.worldnet.att.net >, kelley <d-m-c at worldnet.att.net> writes > it's quite clear to me >that an 11 year old might be easily capable of rape. Really? Would you say that an eleven year old was capable of murder? (Real life case. The first time that the British courts suspended the Doli Incapax rule was when the eleven year old Mary Bell killed two infants she had been left in charge of. Through the legal fiction that she ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 17 00:28:19 PDT 1999

2368 kelley on katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <19990615150221.90103.qmail at hotmail.com>, Jane G*** <janeg555 at hotmail.com> writes > After all, you seem >to have trouble believing that a boy can rape. Do tell, what is the >magic age at which they acquire this capacity? >Do you have any concern over whether these boys of eleven actually >committed a rape? Or just over the presence of the crayons? Yes, >it is a tragedy that boys as young as 11 can sexually assault >someone. But so far you hav ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 15 15:48:41 PDT 1999

2369 kelley on katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

Kelley, I don't think that the claim that Roiphe's description of the rape hysteria is restricted to one or two elite institutions works. It is a natural development from the underlying assumption in much feminist literature first that the barrier to women's emancipation is men (or 'patriarchy') and second that men are inherently violent. With those assumptions, it is natural to take the direction that Roiphe describes. You will say no doubt that this is anecdotal evidence (sorry to introduce re ...

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2370 Liza and kelley on katie roiphe -- rank: 1000

In message <199906122153.RAA29813 at smtp1.erols.com>, Liza Featherstone <lfeather32 at erols.com> writes > >Jim-- > >What in the world *have* you been reading about sexual politics for the past >ten years, my good man? If by "light years ahead" you mean feminist, >sex-positive and critical of retrograde right-wing elements in the feminist >movement and in the mainstream, I can only assume you haven't read Ellen >Willis, Alice Echols, Susie Bright, C ...

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