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2266 "Where Are Kosovo's Killing Fields?" -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.2.32.19991019232800.00a188f0 at pop.gn.apc.org>, Chris Burford <cburford at gn.apc.org> writes >>>Yet that was not the original justification of the NATO attack, which was >>>based on the population of Kosovo being deprived of its right to self >>>determination (within Yugoslavia - interestingly). The one thing that stands out more obviously than any other is that Kosovo's 'self-determination' is the one thing that Nato is not interested in. ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 20 01:37:53 PDT 1999

2267 Doing a Kant (was Re: Rhetorical Gestures) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130301b432942a7e9e@[140.254.113.137]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes > Read Kant, but >don't do a Kant. I think I know what you mean, but is there not a sense in which we all 'do a Kant' when we respect others as persons. Those who criticise Kant (or Jefferson) for failing to live up to the principles of equality that they enunciated do not understand that their criticisms are wholly parasitic upon those very principles. Objections: 1 Kant was ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 20 04:47:05 PDT 1999

2268 NLR, Branka Magas, & Against the Current (was RE: Gitlin's 'Yes'Echoed Among Leftists) -- rank: 1000

In message <380AA934.1F666841 at mail.ilstu.edu>, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> writes >The NLR becomes duller and more trivial issue by issue. I don't agree. It is still very good, if often irritating (as all challenging literature should be). >some account. Where does Norman Geras publish now? He was one >of their more interesting writers. Sad to say Geras' latest book (for Verso) the Compact of Mutual Indifference, is a tortuous moral case for humanitarian imperialism, ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 23:21:49 PDT 1999

2269 Gitlin's 'Yes' Echoed Among Leftists -- rank: 1000

In message <518B8516EDC0D011BE3F00C04FD4EE5A1AA7DA at smtp.fair.org>, Seth Ackerman <SAckerman at FAIR.org> writes > Could you elaborate, please? I thought NLR was pretty firmly against >NATO's actions in the Balkans, even in Bosnia. [Sorry Doug, I am way over limit, here] NLR #196, Nov 1992, Branka Magas 'The Destruction of Bosnia', attacks 'the left' and Western governments for standing by and doing nothing while Serbs rape and pillage Bosnia. The implication is clear: ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 16:12:16 PDT 1999

2270 Another Postmodern Cover (was Re: Subject) -- rank: 1000

In message <19991017155116.A17042 at panix.com>, t byfield <tbyfield at panix.com> writes > ^^^^^^^^^ > >the mark of the master ironist, that. Any old Irony Any old Irony Any any any old Irony -- Jim heartfield

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 13:19:10 PDT 1999

2271 Hate crimes -- rank: 1000

In message <199910171516.LAA09457 at fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us>, Michael Hoover <hoov at freenet.tlh.fl.us> writes >Holmes says that free speech doesn't protect person who >*falsely* yells fire in crowded theatre. There are, of course, >times when it is legitimate to do so - when there is a fire. >Well, WW1 was a fire and Schenk was yelling to let people know. The 'fire in a crowded cinema' is a terrible metaphor. See how it works: In a cinema you are all in the dark and una ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 09:46:36 PDT 1999

2272 Peter Sloterdijk vs. Jurgen Habermas: A Society of Academic Spectacles? -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130301b42f909e9cf2@[140.254.113.140]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >Does anyone know more about this? Ken, Kelley, and other Habermas >watchers? Yoshie On the specifics, only this report. But Slotterdijk's book Critique of Cynical Reason is a kind of postmodernism avant la lettre (first published in German 1983, in Britain in 1988). It anticipates lots of Foucauldian arguments, like thinking with the diaprhagm, and generally makes some cau ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 09:54:48 PDT 1999

2273 Gitlin's 'Yes' Echoed Among Leftists -- rank: 1000

I, too am a Said fan, but agree with Yoshie's points. In particular I think he tends to dehistoricise 'Orientalism' so that it becomes one long underdifferentiated story. More recently he has been very critical of the move away from materialist analysis. I guess the point is that a lot of people were wrong-footed by the Bosnian war. The left was more obviously confused by the experience of the involution of the Eastern bloc. The East's embrace of the market felt like too many to be a 'betrayal', ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 08:15:13 PDT 1999

2274 Deliberate bombing of Chinese Embassy -- rank: 1000

Nato bombed Chinese deliberately Nato hit embassy on purpose Kosovo: special report John Sweeney and Jens Holsoe in Copenhagen and Ed Vulliamy in Washington Sunday October 17, 1999 Nato deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the war in Kosovo after discovering it was being used to transmit Yugoslav army communications. According to senior military and intelligence sources in Europe and the US the Chinese embassy was removed from a prohibited targets list after Nato electronic ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 04:47:36 PDT 1999

2275 Subject: Re: Postmodern Cover for Gitlin's 'Yes' -- rank: 1000

In message <19991017014412.A27843 at panix.com>, t byfield <tbyfield at panix.com> writes > my point, which is should have >made more clearly, is that tito's yugoslavia was itself in many ways >a product of 'colonization' and assorted other great-power activities. >talking about the region's 'recolonization' distorts the region's >history by casting the titoist episode as not colonized. the fact >that it wasn't overrun with foreign troops hardly means that its >d ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 17 01:36:11 PDT 1999

2276 Hate crimes -- rank: 1000

In message <s8089ec2.063 at mail.ci.detroit.mi.us>, Charles Brown <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes >Well, Doug, you aren't trying to make Marx out as a liberal ,are you ? > >You are mistaken if you think I am opposed to freedom of speech. So, what is >your point ? I don't see any arguments in there for making freedom of speech an >absolute and dogmatic right, with no exceptions. Marx is not one, even in >youth , for pronouncing absolute legal rights. All ...

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2277 Hate crimes -- rank: 1000

In message <SIMEON.9910160920.C at kenneth.utoronto.ca>, kenneth.mackendric k at utoronto.ca writes >Have you read Renata Salecl's piece of hate speech? I must plead ignorance. But fools rush in where angels fear to tread, so let me rush in to answer the points you raise: >She >argues, explicitly, that words can hurt. Pretty much all >violent activity, military or what have you, start with an >exchange of words. I note a slippage here. 'Violent activity' begins with words? ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 16 13:40:37 PDT 1999

2278 _A Critique of Postcolonial Reason_ (1) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130301b42d86c42bee@[140.254.112.110]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >You must have mistaken Spivak for V. S. Naipaul. [An aside to Doug & >Katha: See, there is such a thing as an utterly incorrect interpretation, >even in literary criticism.] Or you mistook the ideas of VS Naipaul for searing postcolonial criticism... -- Jim heartfield

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Date:	Fri Oct 15 19:21:30 PDT 1999

2279 Call to renationalize UK rail service -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.2.32.19991015235606.01478f1c at pop.gn.apc.org>, Chris Burford <cburford at gn.apc.org> writes >Perhaps it is more of what the Swedish business representative called the >"networked economy". > >Exactly where surplus value goes in such an economy, and how exploitation >occurs, I suspect is pretty mysterious. But 'where surplus value goes' is always mysterious. As Marx explains, the deviation of rate of profit from rate of surplus value disguis ...

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Date:	Fri Oct 15 17:08:09 PDT 1999

2280 Hate crimes -- rank: 1000

In message <s8074717.044 at mail.ci.detroit.mi.us>, Charles Brown <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes >-clip- >I'd appreciate any additional materials the might be >helpful for either myself or students in regards to this >issue. What is hate speech? What are the limits of >freedom? What is justice? May I immodestly recommend my own article 'Why Hate Speech?' http://www.informinc.co.uk/LM/LM107/LM107_Speech.html Nadine Strossen was kind enough to tell that it ...

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