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2251 Marxist and Bourgeois Categories, was Re: GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. -- rank: 1000

In message <37CEE68D.28ED237C at igc.org>, Roger Odisio <rodisio at igc.org> writes >I argue that the different approaches to the question of distribution result >largely from a different view the labor market exchange. Marxists see it as >an unequal exchange in which labor receives only its subsistence, while >capital accumulates the surplus value created by labor. But you should bear in mind the proviso that Marx elaborates in Poverty of Philosophy when he chides Prudh ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Sep 2 16:14:25 PDT 1999

2252 Marxist and Bourgeois Categories, was Re: GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. -- rank: 1000

In message <s7cd1283.081 at mail.ci.detroit.mi.us>, Charles Brown <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes >Charles: Don't the original Marxist categories of class struggle and abolition >of private property hold the key to the environmental problems ? I don't know. Do they? I have tried to describe the environmental movement as a class struggle against the workers, but I guess some would call it the other way around. I would go for the liberation of the forces of production ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Sep 2 16:22:29 PDT 1999

2253 Scruton -- rank: 1000

In message <v04210100b3f422d338e5@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >>oops. I also wanted to say that Scruton's books on sexuality are >>strongly homophobic. One gets the impression that the purpose is to show >>that homosexuality is wrong or immmoral or whatever...just not cool with >>Mr. Scruton. There's a passage in Scruton's novel of excruciating shame after a seduction/molestation by an older man that is particularly well told. ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Sep 2 15:42:54 PDT 1999

2254 Planning; or marx versus lenin versus lenin -- rank: 1000

In message <005201bef3d8$cf02b820$b7e13ecb at rcollins>, rc-am <rcollins at netlink.com.au> writes >so, whilst marx and engels certainly have a notion of bourgeois >intellectuals as capable of comprehending "the whole" (which remains >contradicted by other statements they make elsewhere), they clearly do >not see intellectuals as importing socialism to the working class as >lenin does in _wtbd_, but rather regard intellectuals as capable of an >alliance wi ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Sep 2 15:06:17 PDT 1999

2255 Planning, Market & Unemployment -- rank: 1000

In message <3.0.6.32.19990830122212.00c73bf0 at jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, Wojtek Sokolowski <sokol at jhu.edu> writes > >Jim, but a rational person would naturally ask why those targets were >"paper targets" - unless of course we want to give credibility to bourgeois >ideology of 'irrationality" of non-market systems. I think they became paper targets because the leadership came to power through a process of defeating mass participation, in the case of the Sovie ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed Sep 1 09:52:33 PDT 1999

2256 I, Kofi Annan, stooge -- rank: 1000

In message <v04003a00b43f6456493e@[209.54.19.99]>, Eric Beck <rayrena at accesshub.net> writes >Brad forwarded from Suck: > >>"Pegging your right to represent on a scrupulous presentation of your >>life story can be a hazardous business... More important, it makes >>for a dull read. Menchu and Said's defenders claim, rightly, that any fibs >>on their heroes' >>parts don't ultimately change history. But only a dimwit would >>believe it wa ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Oct 29 19:50:00 PDT 1999

2257 tosspot yourself -- rank: 1000

In message <v04210101b43f571d40df@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >All you British-speakers out there: what's a tosspot (a word that >figures prominently in the Momus song I was just listening to)? Toss - masturbate, shortened version of tossing yourself off, from which tosser, tosspot etc etc -- Jim heartfield

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Oct 29 19:37:00 PDT 1999

2258 "Radical Chains" (was Re: Fwd: offlist - review of bhaskar) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130305b439a4e4a89d@[140.254.112.151]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes > >So, the members of "Radical Chains" criticize market socialism but are >opposed to planning as well.... In this regard, I think the reviewer's >critique of market socialism is as unhelpful as Angela's demand that we >wage a "struggle against the plan." (No wonder the reviewer's language is >so turgid!) I renew my recommendation of the Davi ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Mon Oct 25 01:22:53 PDT 1999

2259 The Seas will be made of Lemonade -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130300b43796c8e1ef@[140.254.112.85]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes > >Why not pay homage to the radical wings of the Levellers, the Diggers, etc.? >They came a century earlier than Kant! More importantly, their practice and >ideas (on freedom & democracy) went much further than Locke, Kant, etc. Certainly I am happy to pay homage to the levellers. But strictly speaking they did not go further than Kant, nor especially Locke, who was ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Sun Oct 24 18:15:53 PDT 1999

2260 here kitty kitty -- rank: 1000

Yes, those smug bastards make you want to throw up. The fact that the pictures are a product of Britain's internationally shaming culture of video surveillance is hardly remarked upon. But then the country that raised two generations on Orwell's Nineteen- Eighty Four are not keen to point out that Airstrip One turned out not to be a vision of the Soviet Union, but Blair's Britain. In a spookily Blairite exercise in Newspeak, the George Orwell school in my borough of Islington has just been reope ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Oct 21 16:28:59 PDT 1999

2261 Oedipal Revolts (was Re: Doing a Kant) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130300b43533827419@[140.254.113.132]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >Carl R wrote: >>Meanwhile, elsewhere in the thread, Dr. Heartfield sagely diagnoses me as >>launching an "oedipal revolt of the pygmy son" against that distinguished >>avatar of human rights, jiveass Jefferson. > >That's another reason to argue against psychoanalysis, esp. a substitution >of pop psychoanalysis for history. I wasn't aware that ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Oct 21 16:12:06 PDT 1999

2262 Kant: Bentham's Evil Twin (was Re: Doing a Kant) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130300b43408ca893f@[140.254.113.159]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >A Marxist critique of Kant, Jefferson, etc. isn't an immanent critique. >Marx said in _Capital_, Vol. 1: > >***** The sphere that we are deserting, within whose boundaries the sale >and purchase of labour-power goes on, is in fact a very Eden of the innate >rights of man. There alone rule Freedom, Equality, Property and Bentham. >Kant is Bentham's evil twin. ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Oct 21 13:02:16 PDT 1999

2263 Stratfor's zero-based intelligence method -- rank: 1000

I agree with Nathan. I don't believe that the Kosovo war was fought for reasons of business interest. In fact it would have been a lot less barbaric if it were. At least colonial exploitation acknowledges some practical limits. By contrast, moral fervour knows none. It is far more dangerous and destructive. Incidentally can I recommend Slavoj Zizek's review of Vaclav Havel's biog. in the new London Review of Books. Zizek takes the opportunity to dissect the perversities of the humanitarian war, ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Thu Oct 21 13:21:40 PDT 1999

2264 Doing a Kant (was Re: Rhetorical Gestures) -- rank: 1000

Your preoccupation with knocking down Jefferson's reputation is entirely relative to the historical judgement on Jefferson: that he was a decisive figure in the struggle for American independence. That struggle was a noble one which advanced the cause of human liberation. When there is a campaign to rubbish the historical reputation of James Heartfield or Carl Remick, then we will know we have made a difference. But this is just adolescent mewling, the oedipal revolt of the pygmy son against the ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed Oct 20 17:40:44 PDT 1999

2265 Doing a Kant (was Re: Rhetorical Gestures) -- rank: 1000

In message <19991020135319.55849.qmail at hotmail.com>, Carl Remick <carlremick at hotmail.com> writes >You lost me there so far as Jefferson is concerned, Jim. The Lord of >Monticello got a good working over here on the list a year ago, when I >proposed that the Jefferson Memorial be bulldozed as an utterly >ill-conceived monument to one of the greatest hypocrites of history. I was >accused at that time of being a 20th century provincial -- or words to that >effe ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Wed Oct 20 07:54:06 PDT 1999