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2011 Immiseration my eye -- rank: 1000

In message <a04310103b534959a78ee@[10.0.1.5]>, Brad De Long <delong at econ.Berkeley.EDU> writes > >The "immiserization thesis" predates the Cold War by a hundred years. >Why do you falsely claim that it is a legacy of the Cold War? > >>> *Sigh* >>> >>> You should then go read _Wage-Labour and Capital_: >> No you should read Wage Labour and Capital, where Marx makes it abundantly clear that he is talking about the workers' inco ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue May 2 10:05:53 PDT 2000

2012 the positive critique -- rank: 1000

In message <a04310100b5340ffbb74e@[10.0.1.4]>, Brad De Long <delong at econ.Berkeley.EDU> writes > >But what I was curious about was not the negative critique of >capitalism but the positive critique: what is to replace it? What is >the superior social calculating mechanism for planning production and >distributing consumption? Democratic planning > How to rearrange work so as to greatly >shrink the realm of necessity and greatly enlarge the realm of >freedom? ...

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Date:	Tue May 2 09:40:34 PDT 2000

2013 New Economy -- rank: 1000

In message <p0431012ab533a80f30e7@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >Yeah, but a U.S. crash is not a foregone conclusion. Also, say the >U.S. does crash, and the EU suffers recessionary fallout. What do you >think would be the Euro-elite reponse? Boosting public spending? >Acquiescing in raising wages? Or "belt-tightening" in the name of >recovery? And who better to accomplish this agenda than the SocDems >who run Europe? Ok ma ...

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Date:	Tue May 2 02:37:39 PDT 2000

2014 warming ocean -- rank: 1000

> >Scott Martens wrote: > >> The collapse of the Gulf Stream would give Britain the same climate as >Manitoba (the two are equally close to the north pole roughly.) London weather >is miserable already, but a few Winnipeg winters would make it intolerable. Climate scares have come full circle, then. As a boy in the 1970s I remember the dire warnings of the coming ice age that preoccupied various gloom-ridden right-wingers. Then in the eighties there was a spate of dire warn ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 29 03:11:30 PST 2000

2015 [Fwd: THE TEARS OF THE MIGHTY] -- rank: 1000

In message <003501bf95c4$398661a0$45c92740 at teddace>, Dace <edace at flinthills.com> writes >> >>CB: When you say cannot be banned, this is not even correct in the U.S. >Supreme Court standard on the First Amendment. If speech is incitement to >imminent lawless action, it can be banned, prohibited. This is the >Brandenburg standard. The speaker and the actor BOTH can be convicted of >committing a crime. Leftists ought to be a lot more suspicious about laws o ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 29 03:28:16 PST 2000

2016 Rebuttal to Nathan -- rank: 1000

In message <518B8516EDC0D011BE3F00C04FD4EE5A27C635 at smtp.fair.org>, Seth Ackerman <SAckerman at FAIR.org> writes >Of course NATO never said it had proof that 100,000 Albanians had been >murdered. No, but Bernard Kouchner did. In message <000b01bf9258$0bc4fde0$8818fea9 at nsn2>, Nathan Newman <nathan.newman at yale.edu> writes >People keep projecting ideological opponents who had to have 100,000 dead to >justify intervention, which allows them to play numbers ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Tue Mar 21 07:13:16 PST 2000

2017 VV on AIDS in SA -- rank: 1000

In message <200003192044.WAA31787 at faramir.sangonet.org.za>, Patrick Bond <pbond at wn.apc.org> writes >In descriptions of Mbeki's policy the word genocide has been used, by sane people. Really? Their understanding of genocide must be pretty attenuated. -- Jim heartfield

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Date:	Mon Mar 20 06:35:04 PST 2000

2018 VV on AIDS in SA -- rank: 1000

In message <006d01bf9189$ccea08a0$16d5cfd8 at teddace>, Dace <edace at flinthills.com> writes >A decade ago there was one AIDS dissident: Peter Duesberg. Now there are >hundreds of people in the medical community publicly questioning the HIV >hypothesis. Lots of HIV+ people share this view. ACT UP San Francisco is >with the dissidents. But don't look for any pharmaceutical companies to >join up any time soon. One of the reasons that the science has always been cont ...

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Date:	Sun Mar 19 04:09:05 PST 2000

2019 Rebuttal to Nathan -- rank: 1000

In message <004b01bf8fab$ca9f99a0$0890fea9 at nsn2>, Nathan Newman <nathan.newman at yale.edu> writes To Seth A. >Again, you distort the facts. NATO made no estimates of 100,000 deaths. >They continued to estimate that deaths were, as of April 19th, only 3200 >dead. >Find one sentence anywhere where NATO made an estimate anywhere in the range >of 100,000, or quit repeating this distortion. Bernard Kouchner said on 2 August 1999 that 11 000 bodies had *already been fou ...

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Author:	Jim heartfield
Date:	Fri Mar 17 01:29:05 PST 2000

2020 Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post -- rank: 1000

In message <20000316.185035.116.2.farmelantj at juno.com>, James A Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com> writes >The question that interests me is what if anything can be done about >this. The judgement against LM would seem to effectively put it out >of business. Yes, as things stand it is more than just possible that the costs and damages due will put LM out of business. What can you do? Messages of support would be welcome to lm at informinc.co.uk Donations to LM c/o Inform ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 17 01:05:59 PST 2000

2021 Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post (re: THE TEARS OF THE MIGHTY -- rank: 1000

In message <002701bf8f4b$8736d4e0$0890fea9 at nsn2>, Nathan Newman <nathan.newman at yale.edu> writes >What were they, pre-mature apologists back in 1992 when the film was made, >when NATO was ignoring the carnage? To call these filmmakers apologists for >a war that occurred seven years later is ridiculous. Seven years later? George Kenney on the US state Department's Yugoslav desk said that these very pictures were the reason that President Clinton ordered air-strikes agai ...

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Date:	Thu Mar 16 07:25:23 PST 2000

2022 There Is No Such Thing as "Free" Speech (was RE: [Fwd: THE TEARS OF THE MIGHTY]) -- rank: 1000

In message <v03130300b4f60c527f21@[140.254.112.90]>, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> writes >No *individual* can *alone* decide what racism is, however powerful he may >be. How much concrete freedom -- including freedom of speech & freedom >from racism -- we may enjoy gets *politically* decided by the balance of >class and other powers. But if there are already restrictions on what can and cannot be tested in this political decision-making, then those whose ...

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Date:	Thu Mar 16 00:16:05 PST 2000

2023 Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post (re: THE TEARS OF THE MIGHTY -- rank: 1000

Nathan puts the other side, which is fine of course, but since I am forbidden under English law from arguing the LM case under threat of contempt of court, it is rather too late to appeal for a reasoned debate. ITN were offered on numerous occasions the right to reply, but chose to use a legal gag instead. Now to say that we should have a fair fight while my hands are tied is just hypocrisy. Further Nathan says that the jury rejected LM's version of events. But in fact we will never know what th ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 15 14:51:40 PST 2000

2024 poverty, not AIDS, killing Africans -- rank: 1000

In message <002001bf8eab$c3fc31e0$76f246d1 at epinet.org>, Max Sawicky <sawicky at epinet.org> writes > >I would wager that Africans are less excited about AIDS >in particular than a variety of poverty-based plagues, >some of which would be relatively cheap and easy to >ameliorate, if not wipe out, relative to AIDS. I have heard from other sources (an article in the journal West Africa, which I no longer have) the same argument made in the original article posted here: ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 15 11:35:43 PST 2000

2025 Am I from the third world? -- rank: 1000

This is the most interesting post all week, thanks. In message <006b01bf8ded$87562ac0$bbd5cfd8 at teddace>, Dace <edace at flinthills.com> writes >Jaggi Singh quotes Sanjay Mangala Gopal, the co-coordinator of the National >Alliance of People's Movements saying: "We will define our own way of >development and we are capable of doing it. Who are you to teach us about >child labour or anything else?" These are not words spoken by a >hypocritical Indian capita ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 15 11:38:04 PST 2000