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1846 Green wage cut -- rank: 1000

In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010406083851.02766ec0 at mail.jps.net>, Patrick Ellis <patricke at jps.net> writes > >While it may be fine & good to reject the wheezy proclamations of Mr. >Heath, et al, do you really think fossil resources are inexhaustible, no in absolute terms they are plainly not. Are we anywhere near the end of them, no, I think the evidence is that we are nowhere near it. But even if it was in sight, they are no use in the ground, are they? Foregoing new ex ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 6 15:38:41 PDT 2001

1847 BSE/nvCJD -- rank: 1000

In message <p0501041bb6f3db30b32f@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >James Heartfield wrote: > >>I'm still waiting to hear your views on whether you are worried about a >>disease that is as rare as being killed by lightning. > >First, as I remember the LM line from a few years ago. there was no >risk to humans from BSE. Clearly that's not supportable anymore, so I >guess it's now downgraded to a very tiny risk. You remember, ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 6 15:40:12 PDT 2001

1848 BSE/nvCJD -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010418b6f3d3d4f819@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >[the conspiracy reaches France...] > > >Friday April 6 2:32 PM ET >Study Points to 'Mad Cow' Blood Risk for Humans > >By Greg Frost > >PARIS (Reuters) - Monkeys can contract mad cow disease if it is >injected into their bloodstream, underscoring that infected tissue >risks transmitting the brain-wasting illness to humans, researchers >said on Friday. O ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 6 13:30:55 PDT 2001

1849 Doug's points -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010406b6f39c43e6cc@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >James Heartfield wrote: > >>In point of fact, they very rarely have a direct effect on consumption >>but serve the ideological purpose of persuading people to take personal >>responsibility for capitalism (not nature)'s limits. Once softened up, >>all are prepared for cuts in wages. > >I'd love to know what evidence you have for this. In the U.S., whic ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 6 12:23:10 PDT 2001

1850 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <3ACDC566.8990AE60 at erols.com>, Christopher Rhoades D˙kema <crdbronx at erols.com> writes >And does this constitute a reduction, or an improvement in the living standard? > >To me the gain in sociability from use in public transport is clear. I ride the >New York City Transit Authority daily. Somebody else is driving, I can relax, >read, think, space out. I can't do that if I drive. I think you're conflating two quite different things, viz. your own consum ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Fri Apr 6 07:46:58 PDT 2001

1851 Green wage cut -- rank: 1000

Below, Patrick Ellis sets out the environmental campaign for a voluntary reduction in consumption. Such campaigns are old hat (and generally not as voluntary as they seem). In Britain, as a child, I and my schoolmates were encouraged to 'Save it' (energy) by the Prime Minister Edward Heath during the so-called 'energy crisis' of the 1970s. Ads ran on the television with a hand turning off an electric switch, just like Mr Ellis advises. My parents lived through a rather more sustained campaign ag ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 22:35:33 PDT 2001

1852 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010414b6f25f64d1e2@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >And what about qualitative change? Fewer SUVs, higher salaries for >child care workers... What if the child care workers spend their wage rises on SUVs? (Incidentally, the biggest growth market for cars in the UK is women. Traffic planners have identified the school run as the new strain on the roads.) -- James Heartfield

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 15:27:06 PDT 2001

1853 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <v01540b01b6f2521135e2@[165.247.48.93]>, Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com> writes >James Heartfield asks Chris Kromm: > >>Let me, if you will, draw out the conclusion of what you are saying. You >>think that the US consumes too much, and I presume would like to see it >>consume less, no? If that's the problem (personally I don't think so) >>then there is only one solution: reduce consumption by cutting wages. > >Of course the US consum ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 09:31:39 PDT 2001

1854 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <NDBBKPODIHENIECLLPBIEECKCBAA.kmack at dimensional.com>, Kenneth Mack <kmack at dimensional.com> writes >I would like to know what evidence and thought you drew on to come to these >conclusions. I see one piece was from the Wall Street Journal. I would claim >that the WSJ is not a good source for understanding this subject. Are you disagreeing with the WSJ's breakdown of the numbers of those signing the Kyoto protocol? Presumably it's easy enough to check. Mack &l ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 07:49:11 PDT 2001

1855 European Unions -- rank: 1000

In message <Pine.GSU.4.21.0104050454300.5935-100000 at garcia.efn.org>, Dennis Robert Redmond <dredmond at efn.org> writes >On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, James Heartfield wrote: > >> by CIA and AFL tutelage post-war. The Cold War anti-Communist laws >> ensured that they were deeply conservative organisations. > >*Bzzzt.* Now my troll alarm is ringing big-time. IG Metall is strong, >class-conscious, and has fought effectively for a range of workplace >rights which ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 08:00:05 PDT 2001

1856 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <009401c0bd74$154e8fa0$7089f7a5 at u9m6p2>, Chris Kromm <ckromm at mindspring.com> writes >Two dumb arguments, James, bound into one! how very rude of you. > >1) Every conscientious environmentalist I know argues that the chief culprit >is the U.S. (sometimes this is extended to the major industrialized >countries in general). So no, the progressive wing of the environmental >movement does not "tell" the rest of the world that it must sacrifice ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Thu Apr 5 00:21:53 PDT 2001

1857 The tendency of earnings estimates to fall -- rank: 1000

In message <p0501040db6f102649cd3@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >James Heartfield wrote: > >>In message <p05010404b6f0ceb8931e@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood >><dhenwood at panix.com> writes >>>And if you can measure that, you deserve a Nobel. >> >>who needs to measure it, when the market does it for us? > >Very unstably. Ah but its those instabilities that are so creative. If values corresponde ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Apr 4 11:01:10 PDT 2001

1858 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010409b6f0fe49a5c6@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes in reply to my >>But why would you be surprised that environmentalism is favoured by big >>business? The modern environmental movement is a creation of big >>business. > >No, it's a creation of activists and radicals, and big business has >busily been co-opting it. To which I think you will find the chronological order of events is all wrong. The environmental m ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Apr 4 10:54:59 PDT 2001

1859 The tendency of earnings estimates to fall -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010404b6f0ceb8931e@[166.84.250.86]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes >And if you can measure that, you deserve a Nobel. who needs to measure it, when the market does it for us? -- James Heartfield

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Apr 4 07:20:45 PDT 2001

1860 Global Warming -- rank: 1000

In message <p05010405b6efed996d8d@[216.254.77.128]>, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> writes, oxymoronically >Those outside the consensus shrink in number. But here I have to ask, have I passed through the looking glass? Presumably the consensus is so strong that the Kyoto agreement has been signed by everyone (not Rumania alone) and the US president has not denounced it. Presumably the consensus is so strong that Ralph Nader was mistaken when he told Newsnight last night that ...

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Author:	James Heartfield
Date:	Wed Apr 4 00:02:01 PDT 2001