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9961 [lbo-talk] Health insurance lessons from Massacbusetts -- rank: 1000

On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:29 AM, ken hanly wrote: > The lesson to be learned from all this is that the US > is a failed state as far as affordable health care is > concerned and that it shows no sign of being able to > remedy that fact. The auto union for example > seemscontent to let their health costs fall upon the > union rather than campaigning for a universal plan. Worse, the UAW-GM health scheme may well run short of money - GM endowed it with 70% of its projected obligation ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 14 06:43:43 PDT 2007

9962 [lbo-talk] Black Monday -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:54 PM, joanna wrote: > Mulling over whether another 1987 crash could happen, Andrew Bary > writes > in this week's Barron's > > What could precipitate a 1987-style setback? Of course the 1987 crash had few real-world consequences. The leveraging mania continued for a couple of more years. It marked the beginning of a recession in Wall Street jobs and a flattening of the NYC real estate market, but beyond that, not much. It did teach me a big lesson about ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 14 06:24:30 PDT 2007

9963 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > But Americans (workers or not) don't have to love everything the > Iranians do. A new U.S. foreign policy doesn't mean lovy-dovy > relationships with everybody regardless of their conduct. It only > means that Americans (and their agency, their state) are committed (in > fact, constrained) to using the most civilized methods to address > their differences with the Iranians. If, on top of that, the new > foreign policy is ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 14 06:16:43 PDT 2007

9964 [lbo-talk] Hillary steps away from Israel Lobby -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> Not really. Triangulation was originally about taking a third >> position, different from D and R Congressional delegations. > > But it wasn't just about splitting the difference, was it? Between the two parties. Check out the wikipedia entry on Dick Morris.

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 14:52:40 PDT 2007

9965 [lbo-talk] Hillary steps away from Israel Lobby -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > If so, "The Left" that has gained that power is a pretty vague > entity, & > there is no apparent way for "it" to accomplish much with the power > gained. And moreover, it is not left activity that is responsible for > this alleged gain but rather the success which Iraq militants are > having > in killing and maiming u.s. troops. To paraphrase Alexander Cockburn, I love cranky Marxists when they try to ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 14:52:04 PDT 2007

9966 [lbo-talk] Hillary steps away from Israel Lobby -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > But isn't that triangulation in a nutshell -- talking out of > one side of your mouth to primary voters, and the other to > general-election voters? Not really. Triangulation was originally about taking a third position, different from D and R Congressional delegations. What bone did her husband throw the primary voters in '92? He was all about distancing himself from the old New Deal/Great Society liberal wing of the party in favo ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 14:14:54 PDT 2007

9967 [lbo-talk] Hillary steps away from Israel Lobby -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > I think Michael's right on this. I was just going to > say that she, in her wisdom and with the advice of the > arch-strategists of the Democratic center-right, > decided it was necessary to give a bone to the > anti-permanent-war/anti-catastrophe wing of the > Democratic party, whatever the Israeli lobby said. > But I think Michael's take is better. She got a pass. Oh I think you're both right. It's interesting, though, ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 13:04:17 PDT 2007

9968 [lbo-talk] Blown Woofer in NYC -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, 3.3.3. wrote: > huh...just caught this? tom gogola...used to work at timeout ny? Yes, that Tom Gogola. Also of the famous Chelsea Clinton "Riot Grrrl" White House tape hoax.

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 12:37:26 PDT 2007

9969 [lbo-talk] Iran, a model for oil privatization -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 2:15 PM, uvj at vsnl.com wrote: > 130 iranian energy companies will be privatized in 7 years. > Deputy director of the National Iranian Oil Company says oil > privatization > in Iran can serve as a model for other regional countries. > http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=26143&sectionid=351020103 Oh, that's beautiful. And Chevron and Total were at the meeting! Populist and anti-imperialist indeed. Doug

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 11:55:49 PDT 2007

9970 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Did we learn anything from the destruction of Iraq? An anti-war > movement doesn't prevent war, nor does it stop it once it begins. The > only way to prevent the invasion of Iraq would have been to stop > sanctions and get America to normalize its relation with Iraq during > the Clinton administration. Let's not repeat the same failure and > help destroy another nation in the Middle East. I get it now - if we all had ref ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 11:47:36 PDT 2007

9971 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

> > On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >> On 10/13/07, Marvin Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca> wrote: >>> In any case and to illustrate further, I'd gladly link arms with both >>> Dabashi and Yoshie in a demonstration around the slogan "No >>> US Attack On Iran", and wouldn't be bothered if Dabashi >>> sported a button saying "No to Bush, no to the clerical regime" >>> while Yoshie car ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 10:15:55 PDT 2007

9972 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > On 10/13/07, Marvin Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca> wrote: >> In any case and to illustrate further, I'd gladly link arms with both >> Dabashi and Yoshie in a demonstration around the slogan "No >> US Attack On Iran", and wouldn't be bothered if Dabashi >> sported a button saying "No to Bush, no to the clerical regime" >> while Yoshie carried a sign "Solidarity with the I ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 09:47:32 PDT 2007

9973 [lbo-talk] Hillary steps away from Israel Lobby -- rank: 1000

[wow, is this the pressure of running in a Dem primary? would she rejoin the fold in the general election?] Clinton Steps Away From Pro-Israel Lobby on Measure to Rein in President The Forward, www.forward.com Nathan Guttman | Wed. Oct 10, 2007 Washington - Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton has built a reputation for strictly adhering to the pro-Israel line, but she now appears, for the first time, to be supporting legislation that is opposed by pro-Israel lobbyists. Clinton announced l ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 09:46:10 PDT 2007

9974 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > In any case and to illustrate further, I'd gladly link arms with both > Dabashi and Yoshie in a demonstration around the slogan "No US > Attack On > Iran", and wouldn't be bothered if Dabashi sported a button saying > "No to > Bush, no to the clerical regime" while Yoshie carried a sign > "Solidarity > with the Islamic Republic of Iran". I'd join that conga line myself, and I'll bet all of ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 09:35:01 PDT 2007

9975 [lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Julio Huato wrote: > Even if Dabashi doesn't intend it, his perorations against Ahmadinajad > translate into moral grandstanding from the academic Mount Olympus of > a prominent U.S. university. As influential as a Columbia professor > may be (or may believe he is), the broader terms of the conflict won't > bend. I mean, the terms of the conflict between Iran and U.S. > imperialism -- because the terms of the conflict over the allocation > of ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 13 07:33:12 PDT 2007