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9841 [lbo-talk] Zionists target Ha'aretz, but they're a declining force -- rank: 1000

<http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=261> "Israel's Jewish Defamers." CAMERA goes after Ha'aretz and Progressive Jews at NYC conference Posted by Cecilie Surasky under Media , CAMERA CAMERA asks recipients to "share this invitation with people committed to fair and factual reporting about Israel and the Middle East," which obviously means Muzzlewatch readers. They used to call Jewish critics of Israeli human rights violations self-haters. Now the new term is "Israel' ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 24 06:00:54 PDT 2007

9842 [lbo-talk] America's most and least attractice cities -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > http://www.travelandleisure.com/ > > Baltimore did not even make it to the list. It is one > of the ugliest cities that I visited to date. The survey was about the people not the city, no? Philadelphia is the ugliest. Dwayne, waddya make of that?

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Oct 23 19:37:02 PDT 2007

9843 [lbo-talk] Why I Skip Anti-Globalization Protests -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:14 PM, Mr. WD wrote: > Now that this thread has degenerated into people calling each other > douchebag and fatso There's a place for that - in moderation, of course.

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 19:36:16 PDT 2007

9844 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Most people I talk to in the U.S. know much about the crimes of > Iran commits > but nothing and little about the monstrous crimes that U.S. > commits and > our responsibility even for the much lesser crimes that Iran commits. One reason I have a show on an impoverished, marginal radio station and not on NPR - aside from the fact that I don't have a smooth FM voice - is that I spend most of my time on the bad things about the ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 14:52:52 PDT 2007

9845 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > In > 1979, after the Shah abandoned ship, the Majlis elected the leader of > the Mossaqeq party, Shapur Bakhtiar, as prime minister. His "regime," > nationalist, democratic, and progressive in program, was overthrown > in days by the Khomeinists. It was a bit messier than that, wasn't it? The early stages of the revolution contained many tendencies. Much of the left deferred to the clerics, but it took some time for Kho ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 14:48:59 PDT 2007

9846 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > The paretheses was misplaced. Sorry. Does that defeat the argument? No. But the argument was defeated from the start, since it posits some force, presumably on the left and not in the bourgeoisie, that devotes "every breath" to the criticism of Iran. No such force exists. You would search in vain for any U.S. left outlet - print, electronic, organizational - that devotes more time or space to criticism of Iran than to critici ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Oct 23 14:13:39 PDT 2007

9847 [lbo-talk] Why I Skip Anti-Globalization Protests -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Chuck wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: > >> Huh? I was there all week and property destruction was minimal. A few >> smashed windows, and a circle-A spray-painted on a cop car (which was >> ballsy and marvellous). The bourgeoisie likes to talk up the damage, >> but to them anything that interferes with their plans is the virtual >> equivalent of armed revolution. > > There was quite a bit of property damage, from what I've been t ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 13:53:48 PDT 2007

9848 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > It is not only to deny there existence. It is to not realize our > responsibility for them. If with every breadth we condemn the wrongs > committed by the current (Mossadeq) Iranian regime we don't also > say that > we overthrew a regime that might have prevented those crimes, No shit. Really. This is all very obvious. I really don't know who is condemning the "current" regime (Mossadeq? I thought that was the one t ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 13:50:25 PDT 2007

9849 [lbo-talk] climate change and mega-fires -- rank: 1000

[The Science article is at <http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/ full/313/5789/940>.] <http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/18/60minutes/main3380176.shtml> Expert: Warming Climate Fuels Mega-Fires Oct. 21, 2007 (CBS) Every year you can count on forest fires in the West like hurricanes in the East, but recently there has been an enormous change in Western fires. In truth, we've never seen anything like them in recorded history. It appears we're living in a new age of mega-fire ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 13:47:14 PDT 2007

9850 [lbo-talk] Marjane Satrapi: likes the West for the freedom to work, wanted Kerry to win -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Blackmail wrote: > Right before the Satrapi firestorm lit up the listserv, I posted > that I'd > just read Persepolis and loved it. Has anyone else read it? I think > this > could be an amazing movie not only because of the story, but also > because > Iran's on people's minds these days, for better or worse. She talks about movie possib's in the interview I just posted. I'm looking forward to reading it myself. > I'll repeat the question I as ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 13:18:23 PDT 2007

9851 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > The violence and crimes committed by the U.S., yes even against Iran, > are so much greater than the crimes of Iran that to talk about them in > the same breath is like talking about the crimes of the slave against > his slave wife, while evenhandedly condemning the crimes of the > slave-owner. Yeah. Best not merely not to talk about them, but to deny their very existence! Let's aspire to one-dimensionality so as not to confuse - ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 13:00:49 PDT 2007

9852 [lbo-talk] fascism week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Now, what is wrong with Western liberalism? For me, at least two things: 1) its individualist basis and its limited conception of freedom (absence of constraint rather than providing the capabilities for development) and 2) its frequent suspension in colonial and neocolonial adventures, which are anything but liberal. I'm not against it, though, if I have to make the forced choice.

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 12:45:56 PDT 2007

9853 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:21 PM, BklynMagus wrote: >> Everyday that we talk about the crimes of Iran we > are ignoring the crimes of the U.S. the crimes that > "we" commit. > > No, we are not. Who made that silly remark you're quoting? I missed the original and am too lazy to search. Do people have such limited mental capacity that they can't do both? I spend a lot of my working life enumerating and analyzing the crimes the U.S. commits, from imperial war to mass pove ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 12:43:58 PDT 2007

9854 [lbo-talk] "Islamofascism Awareness Week" (was Marjane Satrapi:Revolutionary Spirit) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > I wish people would stop talking about the "regime," > as if nobody in Iran supported it. This "regime" stuff > is a technique people use so as to be able to say, "I > don't have anything against the Iranians -- I'm just > opposed to the regime!" But the regime _IS_ the > Iranians, or at least a lot of them. Probably most. > Ditto Saudi Arabia by the way. The state is identical with the people? Ir ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 12:40:13 PDT 2007

9855 [lbo-talk] Why I Skip Anti-Globalization Protests -- rank: 1000

On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > Do-Nothing Wanker This is unfair to wanking. Wanking is an activity!

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Date:	Tue Oct 23 12:19:09 PDT 2007