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9826 [lbo-talk] (no subject) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Marta Russell wrote: > I can guarantee you that disabled people on the waiting list have > suffered tremendously from the immigrants coming in and buying their > way to the top of the list. It is just appalling. We can't even > keep a housing program from being corrupted by money and greed inside > these bureaucracies. It just makes one want to give up on activism. > The monied run rings around us. The Russian mafia,, the Armenian > mafia are ...

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9827 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Kucinich, whose support is in single > digits His digits couldn't get any more singular - in the latest Bloomberg/ LA Times poll, he's at 1%. Hillary's added 15 points to her total since June, and Obama's lost 5, so she's now ahead by 31 points. <http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2007-10/33426628.pdf> Hillary Clinton 48% Barack Obama 17 John Edwards 13 Bill Richardson 2 Joe Biden 2 Dennis Kucinic ...

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9828 [lbo-talk] Kucinich saw UFO on Shirley MacLaine's porch, was deeply moved -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > Anyway, is this incident any different than Bush > talking to God? What's with this offset mentality? It's not much different from Bush talking to god - but both are scary crazy. And yeah, the U.S. executes a lot of people, but that doesn't make it any less bad that China and Iran do.

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9829 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Hillary is the quintessential "liberal elite" and embodiment of > their values Funny thing is that she isn't really. She's a moralizing Methodist who wanted to join the Marines when she was young. Doug

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9830 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Othello's occupation's gone -- with Democrats like the Clintons, > who needs Republicans? You may have noticed that almost all the Rep candidates claim they don't believe in evolution, would double the size of Gitmo, and would privatize Medicare. If the Dems have become the moderate Reps of a generation ago, the Reps have gone off to another planet. Doug

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9831 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 11:40 AM, ravi wrote: > But I knowingly participate in funding a > government that carries that out Become a tax protester, go to jail. That'll stop the war machine! What, really, do you expect 5-10% of the population can do? "We could have stopped them!" is weirdly grandiose. Doug

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9832 [lbo-talk] thoughts on Iran and LBO -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 11:45 AM, (Chuck Grimes) wrote: > If > women, homosexuals, and various ehtnic minorities in Iran suffer > difficult lives, well, so be it. They are the ones who must fight > their battles. Yeah, I agree, and I'm guessing most other listmembers do too. We can express solidarity, and offer help if they ask (e.g., sanctions during the campaign against apartheid), but it's basically their business. As I recall, Dabashi said that too in the piece that annoyed the Y ...

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9833 [lbo-talk] "Islamofascism Awareness Week" -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 11:20 AM, ravi wrote: > He did not go > crusading into their midst, a la Dawkins, whaling on about how > childish their beliefs are, etc. That's the point! It is? Who would do that? There's a lot of talk about how "the left," broadly defined, should appeal to the religious not as people but as religious people, through religious means. Remember the Jim Wallis boomlet? Ever read Michael Lerner's sermons? There is no reason to do that - it doesn't really ...

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9834 [lbo-talk] Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > We, yes you and me, are murderers and torturers of Iranians. That > is not > only our past but part of our present world. You are a murderer. > I am a > murderer. Then we turn around and lecture the people we murder on > their > morality. Well not exactly. I didn't murder anyone, and you probably didn't either, and I doubt Brian did. We are no friends of the American state. WHy this identification of state and people? ...

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9835 [lbo-talk] 50 Cent: big fan of W! -- rank: 1000

Observer (London) - October 14, 2007 The ten right-wing rockers Some later said they didn't mean it, or changed their minds, but all of them at one time pointed right, says Luke Bainbridge Luke Bainbridge Sunday October 14, 2007 Observer Music Monthly 1. Elvis Presley The meeting of the King and the President at the White House on 21 December 1970 was initiated by Elvis himself. Presley wrote a long, rambling six-page letter to Nixon, expressing his concern for the country and suggesting he ...

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9836 [lbo-talk] Rudy, pornlicker -- rank: 1000

[from The Note] "I took a city that was full of pornography and licked it to a large extent." -- Giuliani, standing out even on a day filled with gaffes.

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9837 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Alex Hogan wrote: > I find the fanatical hatred of the Clintons to be fascinating, > largely because of its seeming irrationality. Bill Clinton accepted > the domination of the right to be a fact and adjusted his politics > accordingly. And even Bill Kristol admitted that Hillary is the > favored Dem for the neocons-not just because she would be an easy > target for the GOP but because she is the Democrat closest to their > politics. The corporat ...

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9838 [lbo-talk] US fascism/ Islamofascism Awareness Week -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > By the way, shouldn't anti-imperialism trump quite a bit for the US > left ? Aren't US liberals copartners of imperialism ? Co-partners? They practically invented it! A lot of the old Republicans were isolationists, more out of xenophobia than principle. Who created the infrastructure of modern imperialism - NATO, the CIA, the Bretton Woods Institutions? Democrats! Doug

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9839 [lbo-talk] Kucinich saw UFO on Shirley MacLaine's porch, was deeply moved -- rank: 1000

Cleveland Plain-Dealer - October 23, 2007 <http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/ 1193128634148360.xml&coll=2> Shirley MacLaine claims Kucinich had UFO encounter Mark Naymik Plain Dealer Politics Writer Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has claimed to have seen a UFO, according to Shirley MacLaine in her new book, "Sage-Ing While Age-Ing." Kucinich "had a close sighting over my home in Graham, Washington, when I lived there,&qu ...

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9840 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

Because she's an anti-American tax-raising socialist complainer: <http://politics.wizbangblog.com/2007/10/23/gops-secret-weapon- for-2008.php>

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