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9811 [lbo-talk] the blind carrying guns -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > "Giuliani: Blind Should Be Able to Carry Guns" > > They already do. They're called the US Armed Forces. I don't know about that. Sometimes they just don't give a fuck who they hit. Doug

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9812 [lbo-talk] the blind carrying guns -- rank: 1000

[sorry forgot to include the news article] FOX NEWS/ Oct. 24, 2007 Giuliani: Blind Should Be Able to Carry Guns LEBANON, N.H. Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani is leaving the door open to allowing the blind and physically disabled to carry guns. During a town hall meeting in northwestern New Hampshire Tuesday night, Giuliani told a former police officer blinded in the line of duty and concerned about the former New York City mayor's stance on guns, "You don't have to ...

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9813 [lbo-talk] politics in America today -- rank: 1000

[this is from a right-wing PR shop I won't name in case they have a google alert on themselves] GIULIANI SAYS BLIND PEOPLE SHOULD CARRY GUNS! The winner of the wildest surprise statement made by any Presidential Candidate this year is: Rudy Giuliani, who told 200 attendees of a New Hampshire town hall gathering that blind people should carry guns! Addressing a former police officer blinded in the line of duty, Rudy said, You don t have to worry. You have a constitutional right that is prot ...

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9814 [lbo-talk] mobilization -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > Interesting! So you bundle a lot of mortgages > together and get to call that a tradeable "security", > and suddenly it's all sexy. Even better you mix 'em together, then slice them into tranches of varying risk, and sell off pieces of your concoction to various parties who may or may not know what they're getting.

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9815 [lbo-talk] Europhilia -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: > Doug wrote: > >> isn't Merkel reversing parts of Hartz IV? Or is the > FT > lying to me? > > I don't read the FT, so you'll have to post what you > are referring to. The first is a news story, the second, an editorial. Doug ---- Germany eyes higher jobless benefits in policy shift By Bertrand Benoit in Berlin Published: October 2 2007 03:00 | Last updated: October 2 2007 03:00 Germany's government said yesterday it co ...

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9816 [lbo-talk] Europhilia -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: > I doubt the following will make much of a dent in your > thick skull, but on the chance that it might, it's a > good start: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartz_IV Isn't Merkel reversing parts of Hartz IV? Or is the FT lying to me? Doug

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9817 [lbo-talk] Islam and socialism -- rank: 1000

Hey, Yoshie, do you ever join any Muslim forums and try to recruit the members to socialism? I'd be curious what reaction you've gotten if you have.

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9818 [lbo-talk] LBO Got All Crazy -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Mr. WD wrote: > On 10/24/07, Jim Straub <rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com> wrote: >> I've been away from my email for a week, and just today scrolled >> through the LBO I missed. This is just an off the cuff impression, >> but it seems to me like the discussion on LBO has gotten really low; >> mean, flamey, even a little crazy. That stuff makes sense sometimes >> but in moderation and balance, and it seems like most of the extende ...

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9819 [lbo-talk] LBO Got All Crazy -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > I've been away from my email for a week, and just today scrolled > through the LBO I missed. This is just an off the cuff impression, > but it seems to me like the discussion on LBO has gotten really low; > mean, flamey, even a little crazy. That stuff makes sense sometimes > but in moderation and balance, and it seems like most of the extended > threads last week were dominated by hyperventilating anger. Anyone > else crav ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 24 12:11:35 PDT 2007

9820 [lbo-talk] Reps *hate* Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:34 -0400, Jeffrey Fisher wrote: > >> Don't we think this reverses the cause-effect relationship? Dems have >> to move into old R territory in order to appear (or, heaven* forfend, >> be) something like moderate. > > I don't think the causal arrow runs just one way. They're > like a pair of ballroom dancers, twirling and pirouetting > toward a precipice. (Not that most ballrooms incorp ...

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9821 [lbo-talk] Iran and Egypt (was "Islamofascism Awareness Week") -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > Yoshie: > >> Many liberals and some leftists follow their dumb and dumber rhetoric >> to its logical conclusion. You've been there before: >> <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of- >> Mon-20070917/017831.html>; >> and you're welcome to go back there again. > > Thanks, Yosh. Appreciate the offer. Still, unlike you, I'm willing to > revisit my dumber positions and attempt to ma ...

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9822 [lbo-talk] Iran and Egypt (was "Islamofascism Awareness Week") -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > For those who have already made up their minds, like most people on > this mailing list, comparisons like this are useless, but if you meet > those who haven't, out there in the real world, it may be useful. How many times have I said that Iran is something of a democracy? (When I interviewed Abrahamian last time, I characterized it as a weird hybrid of theocracy and democracy, and he agreed. Which makes sense, because that's ex ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 24 11:36:42 PDT 2007

9823 [lbo-talk] Iran poll -- rank: 1000

So the masses demand more Yoshie. I don't get it, but while this list isn't a democracy, I do have to give the masses what they want. She says in a post I just approved but which is lost for the moment somewhere in server space: > 1. Why don't leftists in the USA trust the people of Iran to condemn > the crimes committed by their own government and deal with them > appropriately in due course? > > 2. Given the fact that leftists in the USA haven't been able to stop > their ...

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9824 [lbo-talk] Kucinich saw UFO on Shirley MacLaine's porch, was deeply moved -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > Query - If Maclaine was such a BIG friend of Dennis the K, why > would she put in her book, especially in an election year? Smells > of a dirty trick to me. You gotta be kidding. If Kucinich were riding high in the polls, maybe. At 1%, why bother? When you're that low, any publicity is good publicity - and besides, he might attract some of the nut vote, which is probably not small. In fact, maybe the secular left should reach ...

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9825 [lbo-talk] mobilization -- rank: 1000

On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > Doug quote Schumpeter: > ""It is one of the most characteristic features of > the financial side of capitalist evolution so to > 'mobilize' all, even the longest, maturities as to > make any committment to a promise of future balances > amenable to being in turn financed by any sort of > funds and especially by funds available for a short > time, even overnight, only." > > Could you express this in ...

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