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946 [lbo-talk] no end to it -- rank: 1000

---------------------------------------- News Alert: Obama tells EPA to withdraw proposed smog standards September 2, 2011 10:54:14 AM ---------------------------------------- President Obama pulled back proposed new national smog standards on Friday, overruling the Environmental Protection Agency in its efforts to compel states and communities to reduce air pollution. The move represents a win for the business community, which had lobbied to postpone the new restrictions until 2013 in light of ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 2 08:05:35 PDT 2011

947 [lbo-talk] S&P is rating subprime mortgages as AAA again -- higher than Treasuries -- rank: 1000

On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:42 AM, SA wrote: > But with respect to the earlier thread - I doubt investors will be buying these at risk-free interest rates just because they have a AAA. No serious money manager who's not under restrictions (e.g., government regs or a fund mandate, like a money market fund that has to buy only A or better) pays much attention to ratings.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 2 07:53:03 PDT 2011

948 [lbo-talk] S&P is rating subprime mortgages as AAA again -- higher than Treasuries -- rank: 1000

On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:16 AM, SA wrote: > S&P is rating subprime mortgages as AAA again, report Zeke Faux and Jody Shenn: "Standard & Poor s is giving a higher rating to securities backed by subprime home loans, the same type of investments that led to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, than it assigns the U.S. government. S&P is poised to provide AAA grades to 59 percent of Springleaf Mortgage Loan Trust 2011-1, a set of bonds tied to $497 million lent to ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 2 07:31:28 PDT 2011

949 [lbo-talk] Zizek and Gaddafi: Living in the old world -- rank: 1000

On Sep 1, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Ferenc Molnar wrote: > Zizek and Gaddafi are identical souls I love Hamid Dabashi, but this is nuts. Doug

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Date:	Thu Sep 1 14:30:05 PDT 2011

950 [lbo-talk] Obama caves in again -- rank: 1000

On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/us/politics/01obama.html?_r=1&hp > > [WS:] Pathetic, even by my low expectations of the Dem party. It was pointless and stupid of him to call the speech at the same time as the Republican debate. He'll make a partisan stance over something trivial, but not over Medicare?

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Date:	Thu Sep 1 10:43:14 PDT 2011

951 [lbo-talk] (no subject) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > We've had a nice spate of apologies lately, which does us > all credit. But let's not turn it into an orgy. Amurrica > has developed a cult of the apology lately to which only > Japan's bears any comparison. And *demanding* an apology > is a very Amurrican wrinkle. C'mon, I can't remember the last apol-orgy. One per dozen years ain't so bad. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 17:47:59 PDT 2011

952 [lbo-talk] (no subject) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:41 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > I agree with max and others btw. Calling Doug an asshole was > counterproductive. I apologize for that and for overposting. Thank you. And I apologize for losing my shit. So, disagreement within the bounds of comradeship? Man, if I can try to get Natasha Lennard some work, I can certainly solidarize with this crew that I've known for far longer. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 13:45:39 PDT 2011

953 [lbo-talk] lbo-talk Digest, Vol 1736, Issue 3 -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > "Another writer of the era who covered the expanding prison population and attacked the prison-industrial complex was Christian Parenti, who later disavowed the term before the publication of his book, Lockdown America (2000). How, then, should the left critique the prison buildup? asked The Nation in 1999. Not, Parenti stresses, by making slippery usage of concepts like the prison industrial complex. Simply put, the scale of sp ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 31 13:15:39 PDT 2011

954 [lbo-talk] lbo-talk Digest, Vol 1736, Issue 3 -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:43 PM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > Prisons are only one part of a web of > disciplinary apparatuses, deeply linked into the ongoing project of > racialization in this country Yes, but the incarceration rate of white men - not quite 300 per 100,000 - would still rank very highly in the world, considerably above Iran (223) Mexico (200), Colombia (180), and China (120) - not to mention France (98), Germany (88), Sweden (78), and Finland (60). There's no question that ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 13:12:41 PDT 2011

955 [lbo-talk] autumn of the communes -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > Geez, I can't believe I'm with SA here. Why? I usually find SA to be at the place to be. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 12:21:27 PDT 2011

956 [lbo-talk] lbo-talk Digest, Vol 1736, Issue 3 -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, SA wrote: > It sounds like you're saying anybody who isn't already on board with "our" movement, whose consciousness isn't already where yours or mine is, can go fuck themselves There are a lot of people (hi Carrol!) who view politics as a performance of righteousness and not an effort to change anything, except maybe in impossible, phantasmic ways. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 12:02:40 PDT 2011

957 [lbo-talk] the autumn of the communes -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > Ingrate task, but thanks for providing us with this space. You are an > excellent moderator as witnessed by the vibrancy of this list. Keep > it up. Thanks, Julio. I like a high level of contentiousness, but without the personal vitriol. It's funny that one of the most vitriolic is the one always going on about ad hominem. As if someone is going to overlook being called a fool or a cop and address only the argument. As they say at TheA ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 31 11:26:16 PDT 2011

958 [lbo-talk] great moments in political history -- rank: 1000

[from an oral history of Ms. in New York magazine, in which the first issue appeared] http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/ms-magazine-2011-11/index1.html President Nixon to Henry Kissinger on White House Audiotapes, 1972 Nixon: [Dan Rather] asked a silly goddamn question about Ms. you know what I mean? Kissinger: Yeah. Nixon: For shit s sake, how many people really have read Gloria Steinem and give one shit about that? ... Intra-Feminist Discord Ellen Willis s Resignation Letter, 1975 (contri ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 10:46:40 PDT 2011

959 [lbo-talk] lbo-talk Digest, Vol 1736, Issue 3 -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 1:20 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Although I understand Doug's point, I also believe that solidarity between people in and out of jail is absolutely crucial to the revolutionary core of this movement. What makes you think I disagree? My point is that the socially weakest - the very poor, the incarcerated - are not the revolutionary vanguard. A lot of ultras (including some funded by Rockefeller and Ford) think they are. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 10:31:38 PDT 2011

960 [lbo-talk] the illusory middle 75% -- rank: 1000

On Oct 31, 2011, at 1:08 PM, aren aizura wrote: > But if you just talk about the "middle 75%" you lose the capacity to analyse how racialization works with and through capitalism. I'm more interested in "unworking" racialization. And I think that one way you do that is by getting people to work together on common goals - e.g., a jobs program, single-payer, demilitarization, decriminalization. For the life of me I don't get how you undo racialization directly. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 31 10:18:25 PDT 2011