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9376 [lbo-talk] Last Supper, in a leather harness -- rank: 1000

Since atheists are the most disparaged "religious" group in the U.S. - polling well below Muslims and queers - I don't see why the nonreligious are supposed to be so solicitous of the feelings of the religious. At least in the U.S. They're the dominant group, and they should be nice to us. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 12:33:35 PDT 2007

9377 [lbo-talk] Newt! -- rank: 1000

The Politico.com Breaking News: --------------------------------------------------------- Newt Gingrich preparing to launch website to seek $30 million in pledges towards presidential run; will decide whether to enter GOP field by Oct. 21. Full story: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/6077.html

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 12:31:31 PDT 2007

9378 [lbo-talk] post analytical Marxist era/ post liberal era -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:27 PM, John Thornton wrote: > Who on > this list is not aware of the horrors of Pinochet's Chile? And if you're not, check out Naomi Klein's new book. There are about 200 pages on the topic. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 11:46:06 PDT 2007

9379 [lbo-talk] Fwd: WSJ NEWS ALERT: UAW Local Leaders Approve Contract With GM -- rank: 1000

NEWS ALERT from The Wall Street Journal Sept. 28, 2007 United Auto Workers local leaders have approved the union's historic contract with General Motors, and the UAW's 74,000 members are expected to vote on the contract next week. Under details of the pact released today, GM will fund a new health-care trust for retiree liabilities with $29.9 billion up front and $5.4 billion down the road. Also, GM has made binding product investment commitments to the UAW at 16 union-represented plants i ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 11:28:11 PDT 2007

9380 [lbo-talk] career opportunity -- rank: 1000

[Hey, if you've got skin made of an asbestos-steel hybrid, why not apply?] From: John Riley <jr273 at columbia.edu> Date: September 28, 2007 2:06:45 PM EDT To: WBAIProducers at yahoogroups.com Subject: [WBAIProducers] GM Search Committee Progress Reply-To: WBAIProducers at yahoogroups.com Dear Staff, The search committee for the General Manager is fully underway. The committee was set up by the WBAI Local Station Board composed of 3 unpaid staff, 3 paid staff and 3 members of the Local St ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 11:19:31 PDT 2007

9381 [lbo-talk] that Doha conference -- rank: 1000

Guardian (London) - January 25, 2005 <http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/ 0,,1398055,00.html> Fundamental union When it comes to defining family values, conservative Christians and Muslims are united against liberal secularists, writes Brian Whitaker Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi is a controversial Islamic scholar who approves of wife-beating and believes in traditional family values. The Mormon church, having abandoned polygamy more than a century ago, believes in traditi ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 09:07:45 PDT 2007

9382 [lbo-talk] Anti-"Appeasement" Rhetoric: From Communism to a Caliphate (was Pat Buchanan on Ahmadinejad) -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > --- Yoshie Furuhashi <critical.montages at gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Now, about the rhetoric of fear of a Caliphate and >> political Islam. . . . >> >> If you want an example, look into a mirror: >> spreading a fear of a >> Caliphate, > > Hmmm. My ex-girlfriend is from Nalchik, which you may > recollect was attacked a couple of years ago by people > intending to establish this very ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 09:07:24 PDT 2007

9383 [lbo-talk] factchecking Joseph Massad -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > On the contrary, Massad's book criticizes not only Orientalism of the > "Gay International" but also secular Arab nationalist and Islamist > discourses that seek to make pre-modern sexual discourses obsolete, An excerpt from Whitaker's review: > The argument though, insofar as it has any substance, is more about > terminology than anything else. International LGBT organisations > (at least, those with even a modi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 09:02:45 PDT 2007

9384 [lbo-talk] factchecking Joseph Massad -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > On the contrary, Massad's book criticizes not only Orientalism of the > "Gay International" but also secular Arab nationalist and Islamist > discourses that seek to make pre-modern sexual discourses obsolete, > pursuing the ideology of "progress" and adopting "a Victorian sexual > ethic." The Financial Times reviewer -- either because he is smarter > than Whitaker, Proyect, and Henwood or bec ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 08:57:17 PDT 2007

9385 [lbo-talk] Anti-"Appeasement" Rhetoric: From Communism to a Caliphate (was Pat Buchanan on Ahmadinejad) -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:57 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Many liberals and > leftists are shocked, shocked by Bollinger's belligerent introduction > and media hysteria that surrounded Ahmadinejad's visit to Columbia, as > if they had never seen or participated in the demonization of the very > same man and his country. Strange. Since when is criticism the same as demonization? > Now, about the rhetoric of fear of a Caliphate and political > Islam. . . . > > If you want ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 08:47:19 PDT 2007

9386 [lbo-talk] Last Supper, in a leather harness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:22 AM, BklynMagus wrote: > I do not think that mockery is always, or even > most often, the best tool available, but it > needs to be defended for those times where it > is necessary and for those persons who have a > penchant for it. Seems most appropriate for powerful groups or people that take themselves too seriously - like the Catholic Church or Richard Dreyfuss. Only bullies like Bill O'Reilly make fun of the weak. Doug

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 08:39:26 PDT 2007

9387 [lbo-talk] Last Supper, in a leather harness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:43 AM, BklynMagus quoted: > After all, there have been > many previous pop culture takes on The Last Supper, such as by The > Simpsons, > The Sopranos, Star Wars, Sesame Street and many others Yup. I've got an old WFMU fundraising premium, a lunchbox featuring a Last Supper populated by a bunch of Disney characters, presided over by Mickey as Jesus. Doug

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 08:31:50 PDT 2007

9388 [lbo-talk] attitudes towards religion -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > He was also widely known as a "sexual predator." Had he been female he > would have been labelled a nympho. Which of course doesn't matter at all. Who's interested in his personality? Silly gossipy distraction! Engage only his ideas, right? Doug

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 07:35:25 PDT 2007

9389 [lbo-talk] Last Supper, in a leather harness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Mr. WD wrote: > That said, I'm still interested in the question of whether, generally > speaking, secular leftists ought to be bothered by blasphemy. Hell no. It should be part of our proud inheritance!

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 28 07:08:13 PDT 2007

9390 [lbo-talk] fundies split on climate -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - September 28, 2007 HEATED DEBATE Split Over Global Warming Widens Among Evangelicals Texas Christians Cite Conflicting Scripture; Staying 'On Mission' By ANDREW HIGGINS WACO, Texas -- Suzii Paynter, director of the public policy arm of Texas's biggest group of Baptist churches, traveled to central Texas early this year to talk to a local preacher about a pressing "moral, biblical and theological" issue. She wanted to discuss coal. Christians have a biblical ma ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 28 06:17:19 PDT 2007