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856 [lbo-talk] Anthony DeRosa: Don t dismiss the Wall Street occupation -- rank: 1000

On Sep 26, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > I believe DeRosa is alluding to the liberal left media (e.g. the > Huffington Post, DailyKos, the Nation). Well they can burn in hell then!

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Date:	Mon Sep 26 13:13:17 PDT 2011

857 [lbo-talk] Anthony DeRosa: Don t dismiss the Wall Street occupation -- rank: 1000

On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > Anthony DeRosa wrote: > >> Don t dismiss the Wall Street occupation Who's doing that?

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858 [lbo-talk] LBO-Talk's Message to the Masses -- rank: 1000

On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > By the way, because I don't think I was clear, I don't mean to say > that it's wrong to criticize the strategy of not having demands; I > meant to say that you can't criticize them for not having demands > because that is the strategy. Do we have permission to criticize that "strategy"? Doug

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859 [lbo-talk] LBO-Talk's Message to the Masses -- rank: 1000

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara wrote: > I agree. Why critique the political content of political protests? Because we should all be like Carrol and never accuse anyone else of foolishness or bad faith. Let it flow, man. Doug

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860 [lbo-talk] LBO-Talk's Message to the Masses -- rank: 1000

On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:53 PM, SA wrote: > It's not about decorum. It's a manifesto we're talking about. > > I recall that some German once wrote a noted critique of a party manifesto. He had some pretty sharp words for it, too. Well, yeah, but he was different, you know? This is some loopy shit, one of the candidate demands being voted on for inclusion in the manifesto. It's straight out of Willis Carto: http://billsandamendments.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/list-of-demands-by-occupywallstre ...

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861 [lbo-talk] LBO-Talk's Message to the Masses -- rank: 1000

On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > We won't come to your revolution if it doesn't meet our standardsof decorum Pretty funny, since a bunch of us have been there, and some of us even wrote about it. Doug

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862 [lbo-talk] Capitalism is not a conspiracy -- rank: 1000

On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: >> Or, you're guilty of perpetuating capitalism > > No no no, let's leave "guilt" and other moralistic crap out of it. People have to get by in this world. It's not their fault that they are born into pre-existing social forms. People aren't even aware most of the time that they are recreating those forms on a daily basis. Sure they are. But what choice do they have? I do see more than a hint of guilt-tripping in this ap ...

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863 [lbo-talk] Capitalism is not a conspiracy... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:13 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > "Capitalism is not a conspiracy. It works because you work." > > As much as I like this, isn't it a bit of a tautology? Could it not be applied to any economic system? That, and I don't get the message. If you don't like capitalism, stop working? Or, you're guilty of perpetuating capitalism. Or, you allow yourself to be exploited? Why not Patti Smith's "We created it, let's take it over." Doug

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Date:	Sat Sep 24 11:48:04 PDT 2011

864 [lbo-talk] Lenin on the toilet -- rank: 1000

Did Lenin actually say this? "When we are victorious on a world-wide scale, we will make public toilets out of gold on the streets of the world's largest cities."

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Date:	Sat Sep 24 07:26:57 PDT 2011

865 [lbo-talk] Occupying Wall Street -- rank: 1000

On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Ferenc Molnar wrote: > Nice photojournalism report (props to your staff photographer) and the radio segment is excellent. It does a good job of getting a sense of what it feels like to be down there. It's an usual event for nyc because it's a mix of out of towners and locals creating a longer term political space together. Thanks. Good point about the settling in. That topless woman from Maine wants to stay til January. > Yesterday was all about Troy Davis Wha ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 23 20:23:18 PDT 2011

866 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

BEHIND THE NEWS with Doug Henwood "Best Music on an Economics & Politics Radio Show" Village Voice Best of NYC 2005 Freshly posted to my radio archive: September 24, 2011 I visit the Occupy Wall Street demos (my report in words and pictures is here) Rohit Malpani, Oxfam advisor, on land grabs (see herefor report) Steve Keen, author of Debunking Economics, debunks economics it joins: --------- September 17, 2011 DH on the income, poverty, and health insurance numbers Margaret ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 23 19:14:22 PDT 2011

867 [lbo-talk] Occupying Wall Street -- rank: 1000

My report on #occupywallstreet: http://lbo-news.com/2011/09/23/visiting-the-occupiers-of-wall-street/

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Date:	Fri Sep 23 18:55:33 PDT 2011

868 [lbo-talk] yucky press release of the day -- rank: 1000

Press Release ALIPAC: ''Rick Perry Is Finished'' September 23, 2011 (MMD Newswire) -- Texas Governor Perry destroyed his chances of winning the GOP Presidential primary during last night's debate when he defended his support for in-state tuition for illegal aliens which is opposed by 81% of all Americans. "Rick Perry proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not the right choice for America by supporting these radical illegal immigration attracting measures," said William Gheen, Pre ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 23 08:50:36 PDT 2011

869 [lbo-talk] Wall Street Joins Global Stock Plunge After Fed Move -- rank: 1000

On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > Is it really just a matter of culture? > > http://vimeo.com/28690154 > > http://endnotes.org.uk/articles/16 The last thing I want to do is watch a video of Paul Mattick Jr. On the second, I don't believe that the capitalist class wants to extend the crisis. In Britain, Cameron & Osborne seem to have really believed that cutting budgets can be stimulative. I think a lot of Reps here believe that. They're wrong, but that is their ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 22 08:37:41 PDT 2011

870 [lbo-talk] Wall Street Joins Global Stock Plunge After Fed Move -- rank: 1000

On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > [WS:] What I do not understand is why they keep pushing policies that > evidently do not work instead of switching to those that did in the > past, i.e.buying goods and services? There are many business that > would love to see this happen, no? The yahoos won't go for the Keynesian stuff, so Bernanke's the only game in town. And the yahoos aren't too happy with him either.

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