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8446 [lbo-talk] Moby - nerd, wuss, or dick? -- rank: 1000

On Feb 28, 2008, at 1:43 AM, Duncan Clark wrote: > Not unless he's revised those lyrics since '97, when that CD was > released. > I just listened to my copy. Lyrics sound pretty much the same as > MoB's. Here's where I got that: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_of_Burma> > It should be noted here that when Moby covered the song for an MTV > video, he changed the lyrics to "That's when I realize it's over." > When questioned why, Moby responded that he d ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 28 04:39:40 PST 2008

8447 [lbo-talk] Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Doug -- do you think you're quoting, or even paraphrasing, me here? > If so, > I must have expressed myself badly. Well, to take the most recent example, you said that liberals made conservatism respectable. Presumably this is a bad thing - maybe I've misunderstood and you think that's ok. But then you say cultures are conservative. So liberals would be at odds with cultures except insofar as they are conservative? And the conserv ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 28 04:35:29 PST 2008

8448 [lbo-talk] Antidepressants and Placebos -- rank: 1000

On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > To be honest, I think this is a verson of "smoking > doesn't cause cancer" and "AIDS isn't the result of > HIV." I think people just don't want antidepressants > to work. This analogy makes no sense. Independent reviews show little or no more efficacy than a placebo, but drug-company-sponsored research shows an effect, sez the article. It was tobacco co's that argued that smoking doesn't cause cancer (at least pu ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 28 04:33:30 PST 2008

8449 [lbo-talk] Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Gasp! Stop the presses! Cultures are often... *conservative*? Oh the > humanity! When Dems act conservative, they're betraying humanity. So why do "cultures" get a pass? Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 20:29:40 PST 2008

8450 [lbo-talk] Ann Coulter on WFB -- rank: 1000

<http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25241> William F. Buckley: R.I.P., Enfant Terrible by Ann Coulter William F. Buckley was the original enfant terrible. As with Ronald Reagan, everyone prefers to remember great men when they weren't being great, but later, when they were being admired. Having changed the world, there came a point when Buckley no longer needed to shock it. But to call Buckley an "enfant terrible" and then to recall only his days as a grandee is like c ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 17:30:11 PST 2008

8451 [lbo-talk] Buckley -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > He doesn't deserve the credit he gets for "making conservatism > respectable" -- that accomplishment belongs to the liberals. Huh? And what moved the liberals? There was nothing respectable about conservatism back when I was one. Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 13:40:14 PST 2008

8452 [lbo-talk] German labor activity - anything to it? -- rank: 1000

Could our Germanophiles pass judgment on whether there's any here here? Doug ---- Bloomberg: Work stoppages today focused on the Hamburg, Bavaria, Hesse and Berlin regions, Ver.di said. The union, preparing for renewed pay talks on Feb. 25, has rejected a proposed 5 percent more pay over two years as it presses for 8 percent over one year. "The pay demand stands," said Marina Soennichsen, a Ver.di spokeswoman. "Years of wage moderation have left millions of members out of pocke ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 13:15:50 PST 2008

8453 [lbo-talk] crises kill -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Mr. WD wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, B. <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Isn't Eric's point similar to one Zizek makes in the >> movie about him (Zizek, that is), about apparently >> liberal parents actually utilizing more finessed, >> slick methods of control? > > Well here's the quote you're referring to. I don't think he > necessarily means that there's something wrong with encouraging > chil ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 10:06:31 PST 2008

8454 [lbo-talk] the candidates struggle with Russian -- rank: 1000

[from The Note] "Whatever." -- Hillary Clinton, after stumbling through attempts to pronounce Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev's last name. "Having seen Senator Clinton try and fail, I think he didn't want to try." -- Obama strategist David Axelrod, explaining to the Washington Times why his candidate didn't venture an attempt at pronouncing "Medvedev."

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:41:38 PST 2008

8455 [lbo-talk] WFB, again -- rank: 1000

Buckley's death sent me back to Corey Robin's Lingua Franca article from 2001. The conclusion: <http://linguafranca.mirror.theinfo.org/print/0101/cover_cons.html> THE DEFECTIONS of Luttwak and Gray suggest just how unkind the end of the Cold War has been to the conservative movement. It is increasingly clear that the fragile coalition of libertarians, traditionalists, and free-market enthusiasts once held together by the glue of anticommunism will no longer stick. The end of the Sovie ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:36:06 PST 2008

8456 [lbo-talk] crises kill -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:22 PM, B. wrote: > The ultimate answer to Eric's point is: never have > kids! :) Too late for me now! > Isn't Eric's point similar to one Zizek makes in the > movie about him (Zizek, that is), about apparently > liberal parents actually utilizing more finessed, > slick methods of control? Yeah, I guess so. But SZ is probably one of the last people I'd ask for childrearing advice. I still have a hard time understanding what's sinister about encouraging s ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:34:15 PST 2008

8457 [lbo-talk] crises kill -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Eric wrote: > I keep thinking of this as related to parenting. If the father in the > disciplinary society was controlling and tyrannical, the neoliberal > parent is understanding and helpful. Instead of forcing the will of > capital on kids as the fordist father did, the neoliberal parent > blocks lines of flight, through more caring mechanisms: empowering > kids to explore themselves, encouraging them to be questioning and > activist, and sendi ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:07:20 PST 2008

8458 [lbo-talk] i am *so* not a liberal -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Ira Glazer wrote: > so, doug, you don't agree with chomsky's view that on many issues -- > i.e. universal health care; use of government funds for social needs, > rather than for the military; use of diplomacy rather than military > force in international affairs -- the majority of the american > public is > progressive (or 'liberal', if you prefer that term) ? > > in fact, chomsky has repeatedly stated he considers that on many > issues & ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 09:05:53 PST 2008

8459 [lbo-talk] RIP, Chairman Bill -- rank: 1000

Politico.com Breaking News: --------------------------------------------------------- Author and conservative commentator William F. Buckley Jr. has died at age 82, according to the Associated Press. Full story at: http://www.politico.com/blogs/anneschroeder/0208/ Terrible_news.html

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Date:	Wed Feb 27 08:41:42 PST 2008

8460 [lbo-talk] i am *so* not a liberal -- rank: 1000

On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > Is this topic back on ? Is Abu Hartal off moderation ? Abu Hartal - a nom de net for Rakesh Bhandari, who under his real name was known as an enemy of Democrats and of racialized politics - has been purged. Fans can check him out on Lou Proyect's list, where he's doing an imitation of Samantha Power. I'll lift the Obama ban for now. But try not to repeat points that have been made a hundred times already. Doug

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