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8386 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Eric wrote: > Dennis's and Doug's newfound abhorrence of Obama is at > best disingenuous, given that both of them know what the Democratic > Party's function is. Suddenly the Democratic nominee's being a > corporate shill and a warmonger is a scandal? Uh, did you read what I just said? > The excruciating thing about all this Obamamania is its delusional > quality - that he's something other than a loyal servant of the > status quo. Were he elected ...

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8387 [lbo-talk] Edwards for Change -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 3:07 PM, J Cullen wrote: > I see that many of you believe that Barack Obama is an imperfect > vessel. What do you think of John Edwards, who has been driving much > of the rhetoric in Iowa with his populist criticism of corporate > control of government? He's the least bad of the lot, though he's come to all this a little late, hasn't he?

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8388 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > The Obama-bashing on this list is yet > another reminder of the sad truth that if the left > wants form a firing squad, it forms a circle. > > I can understand that Obama (rather than the Repugs or > even Hillary) is the main competition of the radical > hot air so dear to the hearts of many on the Left, but > let's not loose the sense of reality and decency - > Obama is a good candidate: electable and more > p ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 4 12:02:56 PST 2008

8389 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 1:52 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > His shrill cries of "being against this war > from the beginning" Which, as Glen Ford and his Black Agenda Report colleague Bruce Dixon point out, is a lot less substantial on close examination. During the height of war fever, he removed the transcript of his antiwar speech from his website, and told the NYT that he wasn't sure how he would have voted on the Iraq war resolution had he been in the Senate. Doug

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8390 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > One thing an _American_ fascist movement won't be > is a bunch of white people voting for a Black person. That's an > anti-fascist move in a America. A black person saying race doesn't matter anymore is a whole different ball of wax.

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8391 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Stated diffrently, the > sub-prime crisis is not a result of capitalists > targeting ethnic minorities, but a result of > capitalists trying to make a profit by any means - > just as stated in the economics textbook. The fact > that minorities are the ones most affected is simply > an artifact that they typically have the least > defences against such profiteering schemes. To use the language of stats, after all oth ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 4 09:54:00 PST 2008

8392 [lbo-talk] employment -- rank: 1000

Totally crap U.S. employment report this morning. New jobs at just 18,000; private sector, off 13,000. Construction and manufacturing hammered; retail weak. Unemployment up a sharp 0.3 point to 5.0%. It really has a cusp of recession look to it. Doug

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8393 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Dwayne Monroe wrote, after citing Dennis' excellent comments: > This is a sentence no one should ever use - even if "the future" has, > in fact arrived. Although, on second thought, she may be onto > something. Obama's post-everything, togetherness-via-neoliberalism > message of ambiguously described tommorowhood may indeed be the next > phase of American power politics. I'll post my Obama-bashing interview with Glen Ford later today, but ...

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8394 [lbo-talk] post-everything! no more race!! no more conflict!!! -- rank: 1000

[from Mike Allen's Politico Playbook] Chicago Tribune analysis by Michael Tackett: In the end, Iowans voted for a smile. They chose conciliation over combat, personality over pedigree, hope over fear. They voted for the new, with fervor. Whether that sets a tone for the campaign to come is far from certain - in fact, things could get harsh in a hurry. But at least on this cold night, there was a powerful suggestion that voters were intrigued by a different kind of politics, particularly in ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 4 05:13:47 PST 2008

8395 [lbo-talk] cross-cultural appeal -- rank: 1000

<http://www.chelseaguitars.com/videopage.html>

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8396 [lbo-talk] Lenin -- rank: 1000

On Jan 3, 2008, at 7:57 PM, John E. Norem wrote: > In the middle of no-where literally the point on Antarctica furthest > from the sea an imposing bust of revolutionary Bolshevik Vladimir > Lenin peers out onto the polar emptiness. Cool. I have a soft spot for the old bastard. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jan 3 19:56:18 PST 2008

8397 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Chuck wrote: > The Kansas City Star recently ran a feature on the scope of the > sub-prime mortgage crisis in Kansas City. I recently saw a map of the > situation in Cleveland published by the BBC. Looking at maps for > Cleveland and Kansas City, it finally dawned on me that the whole > sub-prime crisis isn't just something that is affecting home owners > across racial and class lines, it really is a massive crime > committed by > corporations ...

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8398 [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond -- rank: 1000

On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > * During WWII - while fighting against several xxxxx regimes no > less! - > the US government put 120,000 Japanese-Americans in concentration > camps. Don't forget WW I, when Eugene Debs was sentenced to 10 years in jail (he served more than two before Harding commuted his sentence), thousands were rounded up and deported, and The Nation was banned from the mails. Doug

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8399 [lbo-talk] Leterman, with beard, returns with Top 10 list performed/written by who's who of striking writers -- rank: 1000

On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Dwayne Monroe wrote: > Re: Kimmel and his picket line jokes... > > > I'd expect no better from that talent disabled, tool of a frat boy. He's the b/f of the vastly overrated Sarah Silverman, no?

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8400 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Urban Word of the Day: vajority -- rank: 1000

Urban Word of the Day www.urbandictionary.com January 03, 2008: vajority http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vajority&defid=1881486 The majority of women. The vajority will vote for [Hillary] in 2008.

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