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8371 [lbo-talk] Obama & the unions -- rank: 1000

So a friend pointed out the other night that unions sponsored a bunch of Edwards ads in Iowa, and Obama denounced this as support from "special interests." This is was being post-partisan is all about.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jan 6 05:27:11 PST 2008

8372 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 5, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > But if you want to understand > how a real fascist movement might look if one arose (say) in 2020, > Obama's campaign will give you a better vantage point than will the > policies and personalities of the Bush administration. That's just silly. Your hatred of Dems has forced you to say something totally preposterous. It's almost like your friends should engineer an intervention. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jan 5 18:18:52 PST 2008

8373 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 5, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > A major component of structural racism is residential segregation. Yup, all of what you say is true. But there's also work like that of Chris Tilly and Devah Pager, sending around job applicants. White ones get callbacks, black ones don't. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jan 5 07:56:50 PST 2008

8374 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 5, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > Well, you know, phlogiston doesn't exist, so there's a mild > implication that maybe racism doesn't exist if sometimes it seems like > phlogiston. That wasn't what I was implying, mildly or at any other strength. When people talk of systemic racism as a system while rejecting talk of race affecting individual decisions, they make it sound like an abstraction without any concrete reality. The risk is that that kind of thinking make ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jan 5 07:55:49 PST 2008

8375 [lbo-talk] open-source pr0n -- rank: 1000

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jan 5 05:15:25 PST 2008

8376 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > I foresee a Huckabee groundswell on the list as a last desperate hope > against Obama's developing fascist movement. Huck's election would > have the > added merit of breaking the string of Ivy League incumbents in the > White > House; he has impeccable non-elite academic credentials: a two-year > BA in > Speech Communications from Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia, > Arkansas and an additional year at Southe ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jan 5 04:42:35 PST 2008

8377 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Joanna wrote: > I don't love or hate Obama; I just want people to acknowledge that > independently of what he is, he is also a symbol of something good > that > people genuinely want and are willing to mobilize for and that this > should not be dismissed as self-delusion. I'm reminded of Zizek's analysis of the shark in Jaws. People could project whatever they wanted to onto it, and that's just the point. Something specific might alienate people. Som ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 21:34:41 PST 2008

8378 [lbo-talk] Taibbi on Colbert -- rank: 1000

I wrote Matt Taibbi to ask if he was really going on Colbert. He's not. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 21:27:21 PST 2008

8379 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > John Thornton predicts: > >> Targeting poor blacks more than poor whites isn't limiting >> yourself to one kind of poor. It targets both but unequally >> based on racist criteria. Since the extent of this mess is >> still unknown we don't have reliable data to show this >> conclusively but I'd be willing to bet that when the data >> becomes available it will support this idea. >> Would be be willing ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 16:03:33 PST 2008

8380 [lbo-talk] Fwd: to Doug H: RE:Gindin-Brenner debate -- rank: 1000

[Bob Brenner says he sent this to Dennis Claxton who was supposed to have sent it onto me for list posting, but it must have gone astray, and Dennis doesn't seem to have posted it to the list.] Dear Doug, A friend of mine forwarded me the video and your note below from LBO Talk. In fact, the debate at the Brecht forum, for which you have the video, is about the question of the dynamism of the US economy, not about whether we are today entering an economic crisis, as will be evident to anyo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 15:23:08 PST 2008

8381 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > Jordan Hayes wrote: >> >> Why limit yourself to one kind of poor? >> > But in general, I think that's right.... Why do you assume racists are economically rational? Yeah racism is larger than matters of individual prejudice, but I don't see how racism is meaningful as a category unless you can locate it in specific human acts and relationships. Sometimes it sounds like phlogiston. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 15:19:20 PST 2008

8382 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Eric wrote: > Precisely. Dennis's and Doug's newfound abhorrence of Obama is at > best disingenuous, given that both of them know what the Democratic > Party's function is. Suddenly the Democratic nominee's being a > corporate shill and a warmonger is a scandal? Now, if they had > actually worked to get someone like, say, Kucinich nominated, I could > take their outbursts seriously. But Doug laughs at people like > Kucinich, and both of them know ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 14:44:06 PST 2008

8383 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

BEHIND THE NEWS with Doug Henwood podcast: <http://shout.lbo-talk.org/lbo/radio-feed.php> iTunes: <http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/ viewPodcast?id=73801817> or <http://tinyurl.com/3bsaqb> "Best Music on an Economics & Politics Radio Show" Village Voice Best of NYC 2005 Newly posted to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: January 3, 2008 Glen Ford of the Black Agenda Report on the particular awfulness of Barack ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 14:39:52 PST 2008

8384 [lbo-talk] Sub-prime crisis in Kansas City -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > If all this is true, then the really interesting question is why these > people wouldn't give a black guy a prime mortage, but would vote to > make > him president. How do you know it's the same guys? I bet that a lot of mortgage brokers are Republicans. My guess is that the white people most likely to vote for a black guy who tells them that race doesn't matter anymore aren't raving racists; they just want to stop thinking about ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 13:47:29 PST 2008

8385 [lbo-talk] Dennis Perrin on the ecstasy of the Dems -- rank: 1000

On Jan 4, 2008, at 3:53 PM, John Thornton wrote: > I can almost guarantee you an American fascist movement will not be > lead > by a person of color. Why this pointless obsession with an American fascist movement?

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jan 4 13:13:05 PST 2008