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7876 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > In the passage Doug quoted Butler gives you and others the > reassurance you apparently need so desperately. In anticipation of > the difficulties people have reading Butler I'll point it out. It's > the part where she says "yes, that concession invariably occurs." It's never enough. It's like a black politician having to repudiate Farrakhan. It has to be done over and over, and it still doesn't stick.

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7877 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > A thirst > thought can only be abated by the _material_ impact of water in the > digestive and circulatory systems. Symbols meaning water won't do the > trick. No kidding. Do you think Judith Butler is a moron or a psychotic?

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7878 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:11 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > This looks like a step up from the common Xtian villification of > the body. But it's not. It's just more fashionably put. Huh????? How is it a vilification?

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7879 [lbo-talk] Ed McMahon: foreclosed upon -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - June 4, 2008 Ed McMahon May Lose Beverly Hills Home By JAMES R. HAGERTY and GLENN R. SIMPSON Ed McMahon, the longtime sidekick to television star Johnny Carson, faces the possible loss of his Beverly Hills home to a foreclosure action initiated by a unit of Countrywide Financial Corp. Howard Bragman, a spokesman for Mr. McMahon, said late Tuesday that his client is having "very fruitful discussions" with the lender and hopes to find a resolution. It isn't clea ...

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7880 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > No, this is the same mistake Butler makes! Dressing a child in > gender-ambiguous clothes does not undermine the stability of > *biological* distinctions between the sexes. It undermines *socially* > constructed gender distinctions. Part of her point is how deeply invested people are in making this distinction. If you play with the dressing conventions, or ignore them, then it's as if people have nothing to hold on to and it makes ...

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Date:	Wed Jun 4 10:01:46 PDT 2008

7881 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > she wants us to strictly abjure any attempt to talk about > extra-discursive sex Why do you want to talk about it? Why does it matter so much that you'd invoke a Holocaust denial analogy? Doug

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7882 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:00 PM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: >> Materiality and reality aren't being used as synonyms here, >> they're just >> being put in analogous positions. > > The problem is that they aren't even analogies. If you took the > trouble to read the broader argument, you would realize that Butler > is stating that the meaningfulness of sex is not accessible through > 'materiality', rather it is discourse that makes the body meaningful > by tra ...

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7883 [lbo-talk] Steve Early on SEIU in PR -- rank: 1000

<http://counterpunch.org/early06032008.html> San Juan Showdown By STEVE EARLY San Juan, P.R. Operating with its usual purple panache, controversial political ties, and a huge advertising budget, America s most Latino-friendly- union has been romancing San Juan all wek long. As the Clinton and Obama campaigns wrapped up their paid media assault on Democratic primary voters, the 1.7 million member Service Employees International Union (SEIU) continued its own PR offensive, laying the gr ...

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7884 [lbo-talk] inkblot -- rank: 1000

[via The Note] On the cusp of becoming the first African-American to capture a major party nomination, Mr. Obama remains a protean political figure, inspiring devotion in supporters who see him as a transformative leader even as he remains inscrutable to critics," Michael Powell writes in The New York Times. "He has the gift of making people see themselves in him and offers an enigmatic smile when asked about his multiracial appeal." Obama gives Powell a quote that cuts both ...

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7885 [lbo-talk] the uses of race -- rank: 1000

[via Mike Allen] NBC's Tim Russert said shortly before he signed off MSNBC's coverage last night: 'I was thinking: What would like to do tomorrow? No more primaries to cover. [Chuckles.] One, I'd like to be in that meeting between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. But absent that, I would LOVE to teach American history in an inner-city American school tomorrow morning. How GREAT would that be? Just to look in those faces and listen to those kids what they witnessed and saw tonight.'

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7886 [lbo-talk] The Nation does CNA-SEIU -- rank: 1000

On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Your position is only > feasible to someone for whom the prospect of organizing is nothing > more than an intellectual exercise. Clearly I lack the street cred to discuss anything with you. So I'll go back to intellectual masturbation while you organize the working class. Let me know when union density gets back up to 10%. Doug

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7887 [lbo-talk] stupid press release of the day -- rank: 1000

From: "Liam Collopy" <lcollopy at lcoonline.com> Date: June 3, 2008 5:25:45 PM EDT To: <dhenwood at panix.com> Subject: INTERVIEW REQUEST: CURRENT NY Times Bestseller Robert Shemin: "How Come That Idiot's Rich and I'm Not?" Hi Doug, I have a great interview for you: Robert Shemin, charismatic author of the current New York Times bestseller How Come That Idiot s Rich and I m Not? Robert would love to come on your program and give a crash course in fun, laym ...

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7888 [lbo-talk] Butler -- rank: 1000

On Jun 3, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > But is she really claiming that there is no biological > determination, no heterosexual instinct whatsoever in any humans, > or even most humans? [from the intro to Bodies That Matter] Certain formulations of the radical constructivist position appear almost compulsively to produce a moment of recurrent exasperation, for it seems that when the constructivist is construed as a linguistic idealist, the constructivist refutes the real ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 3 14:03:17 PDT 2008

7889 [lbo-talk] Juan Gonzalez on SEIU convention -- rank: 1000

Democracy Now on SEIU convention June 3, 2008 http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/3/ juan_gonzalez_on_puerto_ricos_overlooked AMY GOODMAN: Well, at the same time as the Democratic primary was taking place, the Service Employees International Union was holding its national convention in San Juan. The SEIU has some 1.7 million members and is organized labor's biggest and most vocal backer of Barack Obama.. As we've reported before, there's a major internal battle going on within SEIU. Union Pr ...

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7890 [lbo-talk] Gasoline 'shock therapy' is working -- rank: 1000

On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > So the Hummer is on the chopping block, huh! As Mark Haines, a CNBC morning anchor who's often very funny, put it - it's hard enough to sell a Hummer these days, how are they going to sell the whole division? Doug

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