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7561 [lbo-talk] NYT on SEIU-CNA fight -- rank: 1000

On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Those opposed to the SEIU do not offer any evidence that the CNA is a > "more" worthy union or a union that radicals should support. Beyond the particulars of this dispute, SEIU embodies Andy Stern's vision, in Adolph Reed's phrase, of the labor movement as a big human resource department. Stern supports mainstream Dem-style health care schemes (which include ArnieCare in California), and he's said we don't need any Canadian ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 12 09:46:09 PDT 2008

7562 [lbo-talk] NYT on SEIU-CNA fight -- rank: 1000

[The quote from the exec kinda seals it for me: "They were doing exactly the kind of things we were trying to avoid. They poisoned the well to the degree that we didn t have the conditions that we tried to establish for a pressure-free environment." Ah yes, unions are supposed to provide a "pressure-free environment."] New York Times - March 12, 2008 <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/us/12union.html> Rival Unions Battle in Ohio Over Workers at Hospitals By STEVEN G ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 12 05:18:17 PDT 2008

7563 [lbo-talk] the far left's double-spaced answer to Scientology -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Mike Beggs wrote: > Love the last line: > >> Bob Avakian will not be in attendance at this event. Gee, wonder where Bob is. Wasn't he in "exile" for a long while?

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 18:48:57 PDT 2008

7564 [lbo-talk] the far left's double-spaced answer to Scientology -- rank: 1000

From: "Reenvisioning Revolution and Communism - Press" <reenvisioning.la.press at gmail.com> Date: March 11, 2008 9:03:52 PM EDT To: reenvisioning.la.press at gmail.com Subject: Advisory for March 22nd Event: Re-envisioning Revolution and Communism: What Is Bob Avakian's New Synthesis? LIBROS REVOLUCIÓN PRESENTS: Re-envisioning Revolution and Communism WHAT IS BOB AVAKIAN'S NEW SYNTHESIS? Presentation followed by discussion SATURDAY MARCH 22 1 5 PM THE NEW LATC 514 S. SPRING ST ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 18:10:30 PDT 2008

7565 [lbo-talk] more from CNA -- rank: 1000

[Further comments from the California Nurses Association] Letter to AFL-CIO Exec Council If SEIU now wants the AFL-CIO to act against CNA on "principles" they claim have been violated, why did they abandon those principles and the federation to operate without principle in CTW? If these votes are the product of a 3-year organizing campaign and reflect the workers' desire for representation by SEIU, why did SEIU make a secret, exclusive election deal with the employer to evade show ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 17:31:30 PDT 2008

7566 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > But as I said in my previous post, this sort of speculation > (recipes for > cook shops of the future) is mostly useful as a way of > understanding the > present. Those who want to participate in creating _any_ future at all > must learn that keeping capitalism is not a choice -- unless one > counts > death as a choice. Where will this sort of hyperbole get you?

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 17:11:36 PDT 2008

7567 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Bill Bartlett wrote: > You have to imagine an economy that isn't based on markets and > trading, where goods and services are produced freely, because people > need them and used freely. I'm not sure that someone who hasn't had a job in 30 years is the best source on this. Your fellows, who work the jobs that finance your dole check, might have a different POV. Doug

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 17:01:15 PDT 2008

7568 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Lew wrote: >> In case you missed it: >> >>> download my book Wall Street (for free!) at >>> <http://www.wallstreetthebook.com> > > I did miss it. But could you summarize your position in a short > paragraph? I wrote a 400 page book on the topic. Of course I'm not going to summarize that in a short paragraph.

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 16:16:15 PDT 2008

7569 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > I have faith that other people, living under different social > conditions, will be much more creative and flexible than you and I > will > ever be. In my view, our inability to "theorize a moneyless > society" is > a result of our own enculturation into a capitalist society; thus it's > not a coherent argument against the possibility of a moneyless > society. The reason I brought up the last several thousand ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 16:02:17 PDT 2008

7570 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Lew wrote: > But why don't you tell us what you learned from Marx (or > not, as the case may be) about money and finance? You've got to be kidding. In case you missed it: > download my book Wall Street (for free!) at > <http://www.wallstreetthebook.com>

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 15:22:15 PDT 2008

7571 [lbo-talk] RNs denounce sham NLRB election in Ohio hospitals -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Mark Rickling wrote: > For the time being, at least, the CNA has been successful in its > union-busting campaign in Ohio: > > > For Immediate Release: > Contact: Michelle Ringuette > March 11, 2008 > (202) xxx-xxx > > Thousands of Ohio Nurses and Other Healthcare Employees Denied a Voice > at Work After Vicious Union-Busting Campaign by the California Nurses > Association I sent this to the CNA's press person, Chuck Idelso ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 15:03:22 PDT 2008

7572 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > According to you, any change is like a can of beans on the supermarket > shelf -- we stand there and abstractly decide if we want it, which > requires that we know what it is in advance -- and that we merely have > to decide we want it to get it. > > This is absurd. > > Revolutionary change is the organization of people in collective > resistance to the present order. PERIOD. Uh, Carrol, I pretty much agree with you on ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 14:52:23 PDT 2008

7573 [lbo-talk] RNs denounce sham NLRB election in Ohio hospitals -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > In a labor > movement worthy of the name, both unions would sign up and represent > those who choose them and bargain jointly if possible or severally if > necessary. That's how its done in France! Yes! End union monopolies! For competitive unionism!

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 14:26:49 PDT 2008

7574 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Lew wrote: > As a start, I suggest it would help if was more widely understood what > Marx was arguing. At a time when interest in his ideas is > undiminished - > in 1999 Marx was voted the "Greatest Thinker of the Millennium" in > a BBC > online poll, and then in 2005 he was voted the "Greatest > Philosopher" in > another BBC poll - his ideas are still poorly understood. You don't have to sell me on Marx's wisdom. I've rea ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 14:23:45 PDT 2008

7575 [lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism -- rank: 1000

On Mar 11, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Bill Bartlett wrote: > This is essentially a form of rationing. The next stage is to abandon > that, but first people have to grow out of the fetish for things and > status based on possession of things. Making things available freely > will inevitably go a long way towards drilling a new consciousness > into our heads. Isn't there just a teensy-weensy chicken-egg problem here?

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Date:	Tue Mar 11 14:13:22 PDT 2008