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7336 [lbo-talk] Adolph Reed's latest -- rank: 1000

On May 8, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > So essentially there's no reason for Obama to give this up. It's > popular with the vast majority of blacks; it's popular with non- > liberal > whites *for completely different reasons* from a completely different > perspective (what Ta-Nehisis Coates calls the "double play"); and, > most > importantly, it's meant to -- and there's no reason to think it > can't -- > advance his ability to pass strutural pro ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 12:50:09 PDT 2008

7337 [lbo-talk] also posted without comment -- rank: 1000

<http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/318585/ a_change_is_gonna_come> 'A Change is Gonna Come' posted by KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL on 05/06/2008 @ 9:55pm American Idol finalist Syesha Mercado had just finished singing Sam Cooke's 1964 classic "A Change is Gonna Come" when Obama strode onto the stage in Raleigh, North Carolina. Syesha wept, as she reminded Randy, Paula and Simon of the civil rights movement which fueled Cooke's song, life and power. Obama spoke of the cha ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 10:21:21 PDT 2008

7338 [lbo-talk] Adolph Reed's latest -- rank: 1000

On May 8, 2008, at 1:06 PM, shag wrote: > Ta-Nehisi Coates (who's father was a Panther) He's got a piece in The Nation. I'll post it without any comment other than it's remarkable. Doug ---- The Nation May 19, 2008 <http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080519/coates. A Deeper Black by TA-NEHISI COATES To say that Barack Obama is our first serious black presidential candidate drastically understates the matter. When Obama greets his political allies, he does not give a simple, firm, business ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 10:17:39 PDT 2008

7339 [lbo-talk] Adolph Reed's latest -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > That's perfectly incisive question. And the answer is that Adolph > is not > being at all fair here. [A Google search on "obama 'tough love'" turns up 133,000 hits. Here are two. The second is from a self-identified conservative who's got a quote from Thomas Sowell as an epigraph.] Washington Post - May 3, 2007 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/02/ AR2007050202813.html> Obama Reaches Out Wi ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 08:34:14 PDT 2008

7340 [lbo-talk] Adolph Reed's latest -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > That's perfectly incisive question. And the answer is that Adolph > is not > being at all fair here. [Nice touch, getting Manning Marable to do the defensive work here. But this is typical Obama - water it down, try to have it both ways. But there's a lot of Cosby in this.] <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601103&sid=a6IOTQeXhXao&refer=us> Obama Delivers Tough-Love Message to Black Audiences (Update2) By Julia ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 08:07:44 PDT 2008

7341 [lbo-talk] Adolph Reed's latest -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > That's perfectly incisive question. And the answer is that Adolph > is not > being at all fair here. Houston Chronicle January 30, 2008 <http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/5500250.html> POLITICS 'Pookie' keeps popping up in Obama's speeches Folk character may help candidate connect with voters By JONATHAN TILOVE Newhouse News Service Barack Obama has been talking about Cousin Pookie again. "I need you to grab Co ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 08:02:31 PDT 2008

7342 [lbo-talk] split on the religious right? [sic] -- rank: 1000

On May 8, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > Why lump all Protestant Evangelicals as "religious right?" Jimmy > Carter??? > Why not recognize the emergence of something that (in American terms) > should be called the "evangelical left?" Yup right. Sorry for the misleading subject head. Doug

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7343 [lbo-talk] split on the religious right? -- rank: 1000

[via Mike Allen] EVANGELICAL SPLIT - 'Evangelical leaders say their faith is too politicized,' By AP Religion Writer Rachel Zoll: 'Prominent evangelicals urged Christian conservatives Wednesday to support 'an expansion of our concerns beyond single-issue politics,' angering some leaders on the religious right who have been closely allied with the Republican Party. In a 19-page document called 'An Evangelical Manifesto,' more than 70 theologians, pastors and others said faith and politics ...

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Date:	Thu May 8 06:17:26 PDT 2008

7344 [lbo-talk] US elections -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 6:03 PM, shag wrote: > what explained their support early on, though. i didn't pay > attention, but > i recall reading that it was because she spoke to bread 'n' butter > issues > such as declining pay, shuttered factories, etc. She did - she talked about that much more than BHO, who talked about "change." The working class isn't sold on "change." Doug

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Date:	Wed May 7 15:08:45 PDT 2008

7345 [lbo-talk] so much for the new coalition... -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > What did the opinion polls predict about > who would win the Democratic ( and Rep) > Presidential nomination(s) this year before > the primaries started ? My point in posting that analysis wasn't to predict anything. It was to refute the myth that there's something transformative about the Obama coalition. That it looks demographically identical to Kerry's 2004 vote is the very opposite of transformative. Doug

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7346 [lbo-talk] US elections ( Michelle O, ma belle) -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > I'm not sure what the point is of > rehabilitating these hacks. Ever read the People's Weekly World? As election time approaches, there's always a surreal rehabilitation of Democrats. Except that it's usually phrased as "defeat the right!," which is a bit more clear-eyed than inventing some solidarity between Bill Richardson and Hugo Chavez. Doug

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Date:	Wed May 7 14:44:06 PDT 2008

7347 [lbo-talk] more on party ID -- rank: 1000

Pew party ID: 1993: Dems +1 1995: Reps +3 1999: Dems +8 2002: even 2007: Dems +15

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Date:	Wed May 7 12:51:59 PDT 2008

7348 [lbo-talk] so much for the new coalition... -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 3:36 PM, shag wrote: > Also, in the last elections cycles, was it the case that more > people IDd > as dem or dem leaning than republican? I don't recall that. This year, > it's the case, with republican or republican leaning being a > minority -- > 37% or something. Dem ID has been rising over the last few years. It's the highest it's been in years. Here's a history since 2004: <http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/Party-Affiliation.aspx>

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Date:	Wed May 7 12:46:54 PDT 2008

7349 [lbo-talk] so much for the new coalition... -- rank: 1000

On May 7, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > Doug posted: > >> <http://www.gallup.com/poll/107110/Obamas-Support-Similar- >> Kerrys-2004.aspx> >> >> So at the moment, it would appear that Obama's problems with less >> well-educated voters -- emphasized heavily by the Clinton campaign -- >> are no worse than were Kerry's in 2004, and are more than made up for >> by Obama's strength among those with college degrees. > ================ ...

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7350 [lbo-talk] so much for the new coalition... -- rank: 1000

[graphs, tables at link] <http://www.gallup.com/poll/107110/Obamas-Support-Similar- Kerrys-2004.aspx> Obama's Support Similar to Kerry's in 2004 Similar levels of support exist across white, black, blue-collar voters by Frank Newport PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama's current level of support among white voters in a head-to-head matchup against John McCain is no worse than John Kerry's margin of support among whites against George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential election. Much of the talk ...

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