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7111 [lbo-talk] Ralph: Obama an Uncle Tom? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:01 AM, Dmytri Kleiner wrote: > BTW, Doug. If Ralph is "irrelevant," what are you? What are the rest > of us? Close to zero. I've never thought otherwise.

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7112 [lbo-talk] Obama picks Rahm Emanuel, free trade fanatic & welfare "reformer" -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox, sounding like Pope or some other Old Fart: > The fallacy Progress! Don't you think Marx believed in progress in some sense? Doug

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7113 [lbo-talk] Palin didn't know Africa was a continent -- rank: 1000

[great video clip] <http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > WTF? Sarah Palin Thought Africa Was A Country, Not A Continent And this unbelievable nugget comes from a Fox News reporter. That Sarah Palin thought Africa was a country, not a continent. God bless you, Carl Cameron, for promising an avalanche of Palin revelations that had been off-the-record until the election was over. She threw temper tantrums and was unmanageable. She didn t ...

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7114 [lbo-talk] Ralph: Obama an Uncle Tom? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:23 PM, John Thornton wrote: > James Heartfield wrote: >> It wasn't that bad a choice of words, and a reasonable political >> point. Uncle Tom to the corporations that run the system, he said. >> It might sound like race-baiting, if you are of a mind to read it >> that way, but I don't think it was. > > Are you joking or clueless? > Perhaps as a Brit you don't realize that calling Obama an Uncle Tom > is hugely ugly? > Maybe it has di ...

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7115 [lbo-talk] Obama picks Rahm Emanuel, free trade fanatic & welfare "reformer" -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:00 PM, B. wrote: > How about JP Morgan Chase CEO on tap as Treasury Sec'y? > > > http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0806/gallery.obamas_advisors.fortune/3.html > > > Did FDR have a banking CEO in comparable position? No, but his first Treasury Secretary was a Republican businessman. His second, Morgenthau, was born into a real estate family and was orthodox on economic matters, though he largely did what FDR told him to. Doug

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7116 [lbo-talk] Obama picks Rahm Emanuel, free trade fanatic & welfare "reformer" -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 7:27 PM, shag wrote: > As with Clinton, what they were terrified of was the fact that he > stole their issues, like welfare reform. If Obama does the same > thing, steals their hobby horses, they will hate him as much and more. But what such issues are there? Welfare reform is a done deal (and I was pretty confused by Lenin's Tomb's reference to our welfare system, since we basically don't have one). The right is out of gas.

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7117 [lbo-talk] more on the young 'uns -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:47 PM, shag wrote: > but I do. not. get. who cares? what the hell does it mean that young > people turned out for Obama? How is that indicative of a social > movement? Because of the sixties? It does suggest something about how the political culture is changing, and might change in the coming years. The kids' love for Ronnie in the early 1980s had some legs. Doug

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7118 [lbo-talk] Ralph is organizing something! -- rank: 1000

Ralph is organizing a 60-day campaign to lobby Congress on single- payer, etc. <http://www.november5.org/>.

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Date:	Wed Nov 5 15:44:04 PST 2008

7119 [lbo-talk] card check -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Mr. X wrote: > The increased black vote helped the anti-gay propositions win. Yes, sorry to say. 70% of black voters supported the California ban on gay marriage, with women apparently leading the way. Latinos supported it 53-47. Curiously, nonwhites with incomes over $50,000 were more strongly supportive than those under $50,000. <http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=CAI01p1>

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7120 [lbo-talk] BAR on BHO -- rank: 1000

<http://www.blackagendareport.com/> Cashing the Obama Check: Will It Come Back Marked "Insufficient Funds"? by BAR managing editor Bruce Dixon The vote for the First Black President wasn't just about race and racism. For tens of millions, it was a vote for peace abroad, for economic and social justice at home. Barack Obama sold himself to the American people as a transformative political figure. Despite those who now urge Americans to tone down their expectations, many are p ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 5 14:47:26 PST 2008

7121 [lbo-talk] Ralph: Obama an Uncle Tom? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Lenin's Tomb wrote: > It's a stupid choice of words, to be sure, and be assured that you > will be reminded of how evil Ralph is when Obama starts a war or > 'reforms' your welfare system. I don't think so. Ralph has become almost entirely irrelevant. Doug

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7122 [lbo-talk] more lunacy -- rank: 1000

[this is from the right-wing PR shop M. Silwa Public Relations] Hamas: Obama Win 'Historic Victory for World' Exclusive: Terror group drafting letter of congratulation to be sent directly to president-elect JERUSALEM -- The Hamas terror group believes the election of Sen. Barack Obama is an "historic victory" for the world and an opportunity to change U.S. foreign policy toward engagement with America's foes, Ahmed Yousef, Hamas' chief political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 5 14:23:27 PST 2008

7123 [lbo-talk] Is prop 8 constitutional? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > This is Nader politics. It doesn't just take steam out of > organizing, it displaces it. Nader's a big litigator. He prefers juries, because they dissolve at the end of a trial, to ongoing institutions. So I'm not sure what you mean. Doug

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7124 [lbo-talk] transformation? -- rank: 1000

The key question of the 2008 presidential election is whether it represents just a change in administration or a change in our politics. Is it a reactive election like 1992, or a transformational one like the New Deal, the Great Society and the Reagan Revolution? Time will tell. But the possibility is there. There are three reasons this election may represent more than simply a one-time protest against an unpopular incumbent and a poor economy. One is the youth vote; another, the possibil ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 5 13:31:06 PST 2008

7125 [lbo-talk] Is prop 8 constitutional? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > Done and done: > > http://thecalifornian.com/article/20081105/NEWS03/81105019/1002/NEWS01 > > Three civil liberties groups announced this morning that they have > filed a lawsuit asking the California Supreme Court to strike down > state Proposition 8 if it passes. Does this really make sense? The pro-choice movement never really built a movement - it was all about lobbying and litigation, punctuated by quadrennial pleas ...

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