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691 [lbo-talk] E-Mail Discussion Lists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Discussion on an e-mail list is primarily discussion of the opinions and > empirical matter _exressed_ ON the list by participants in the discussion. > Reference to external sources is always a matter of interest, but any > insistence by any poster that such and such a source MUST be consulted (or > that such consultation is a prerequisite to participation in a given > discussion is a deliberate attempt to sabotage the very existe ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 3 10:44:40 PST 2012

692 [lbo-talk] 'The Reactionary Mind': An Exchange -- rank: 1000

On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, // ravi wrote: > Please don t tell me to read the book. That s a cop out. I love the internet. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 3 09:18:44 PST 2012

693 [lbo-talk] 'The Reactionary Mind': An Exchange -- rank: 1000

On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:18 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > i know you are a busy guy but you need to read what i wrote more carefully. furthermore, robin makes this claim about what he's up to in the exchange with lilla, directly contradicting your characterization. not only does he use the term "lower orders" he also says that he wants to explain why they join conservative causes: He was responding to something Lilla said. He is not motivated by finding out what causes the "lower ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 3 08:33:44 PST 2012

694 [lbo-talk] 'The Reactionary Mind': An Exchange -- rank: 1000

On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > As I see, the main point of this book is to make a > distinction between conservatives and reactionaries No. Corey believes that all the subspecies on the right have the same underlying goal: repressing rebellions and maintaining hierarchies. Sometimes right-wingers criticize existing elites for not being repressive and/or reactionary enough - e.g., Burke.

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Date:	Fri Feb 3 07:53:18 PST 2012

695 [lbo-talk] 'The Reactionary Mind': An Exchange -- rank: 1000

On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > He just uses these claims about the lower orders b/c he knows it appeals to his audience: liberals who want to know what's the matter with Kansas. It doesn't have to be explained if that's your audience. it just has to be invoked b/c the audience finds it satisfying *already* to believe that they are the smart ones in the room writing the books about what's the matter with kansas. Most people reading aren't going to question this thesis IO ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Feb 3 07:27:00 PST 2012

696 [lbo-talk] Mike Kelley dead -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: >> "He didn't like the fact that everything has become so corporate. ..." > > Do you think he means like it was in the time of the Medicis? A bit about that from Wall Street: > This little survey of financial innovation would be incomplete without notice paid to the ease with which nearly anything can be absorbed into the circuit of money. On shutting down his family s 172-year-old London art dealership, Charles Leggatt obs ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 19:17:17 PST 2012

697 [lbo-talk] Gossip -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > But how in the hell can you gossip about itptpoolas & > nmtacteris -- which make as much sense as "conservatives" and "leftists." > That contrast resembles, say, a contrast between Jonathan apples and styles > in work shirts. Since you issue a pronouncement like this about four times a day, and also like to go on about the Sixties almost as much, I thought of you when I read this in Jenny Diski's little book on t ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 18:27:51 PST 2012

698 [lbo-talk] demi moore gossip -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: >> What is this horrible diet/exercise regimen of which you speak? > > "Red Bull for breakfast; Red Bull for lunch; a piece of lettuce with a tablespoon of tuna fish" ... And WhipIt's for snax. Then rehab. Her thighs looked nicely muscled when they were hosting Michael Douglas. But a diet like that won't maintain their condition.

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 18:02:16 PST 2012

699 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:51 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > I kinda like gossip. But conservatives vs liberals would not be my favorite topic. How do you feel about Demi? I always kind of liked her. Doug

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700 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:43 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > gossip I'd be happy to talk about Demi Moore's drug problem, if you prefer.

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 12:53:27 PST 2012

701 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:43 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > I agree with Carrol. These categories are good for gossip but not much else. Isn't that what this is?

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 12:53:06 PST 2012

702 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I'm afraid you fail to escape the trap I mentioned in my previous post: Your > categories have no demonstrable foundation. They are purely imaginary. All categories are to some degree imaginary. But we couldn't live without them. Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 12:03:31 PST 2012

703 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:52 PM, // ravi wrote: > On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Wojtek S wrote: >> As far as liberals and lefties are concerned, these tend to belong to >> or come from the upper middle class fractions (professionals, >> academics, artists, etc.) whose social status is built on individual >> meritocratic contributions (work) ... > > > I think that alone meritocratic success would explain the leftist when it comes to generosity or sociability. Wh ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 11:19:16 PST 2012

704 [lbo-talk] conservatives vs. leftists -- rank: 1000

On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > I recently had a conversation with someone arguing that conservatives > tend to be more generous and compassionate individuals (citing some > data on charitable giving and volunteering.) While I generally > dismiss such opinions as propaganda, it occurred to me that based on > my personal experience there may be some kernel of truth in it. Yup, true in my experience.

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Date:	Thu Feb 2 08:09:43 PST 2012

705 [lbo-talk] Value of the Dollar -- rank: 1000

On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:32 PM, brad wrote: > Isn't part of the reason that China has become a manufacturing > powerhouse because of what Dean is talking about - why would US > investors invest in the US when they get much more for their money in > China? Doug claims devaluing the US dollar is the easy (or cheap or > something like that) way out, but obviously you wouldn't push that as > the only path. Plus, what is wrong with doing things the easy way? Because it doesn't work in ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 1 10:47:34 PST 2012