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6631 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > "Raising McCain." Man, does that song suck or what?

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6632 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:23 PM, rayrena wrote: > I've never heard you--which doesn't mean you > haven't--criticize Obama for being inexperienced. I'd like > to hear an argument that he's more experienced than she is Fine with me. He strikes me as sort of like Jerry Brown - someone who loves running for office, but isn't very interested in serving once he gets there. Doug

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6633 [lbo-talk] Jezebel on Palin -- rank: 1000

[not sure whether this would pass the Catron sexism test] <http://jezebel.com/5045934/why-sarah-palin-incites-near+violent-rage-in-normally-reasonable-women > VEEPSTAKES PRIZE Why Sarah Palin Incites Near-Violent Rage In Normally Reasonable Women I don't like Sarah Palin. Maybe you noticed already! But I don't like any politician who is diabolically anti-choice, who chases wolves down in aircraft only to shoot them when they tire, who supports tearing up the environment and increasingly ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 5 11:50:03 PDT 2008

6634 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:31 PM, shag wrote: > aside from doug's comments about salmon... who else was sexist, etc. How is it sexist to say that I'd rather not be next to someone who smells like fish? You're not resurrecting that old canard about pussy, are you?

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6635 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Eric wrote: > Of course not, but it's possible to point that out using and > duplicating some of her same reactionary bullshit. And people are > doing that, which is what Joseph is objecting to, rightly, if you > ask me. People's cackling about her being a PTA mom, being > inexperienced, and going back to work a few days after giving birth > to a Down syndrome baby is sexism. People pointing out that she's a > hick from some backwater, that she l ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 5 10:26:22 PDT 2008

6636 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > It's generally reactionary to use the word "bitch" disparagingly, > Doug. Or > do you disagree? Yeah, kinda, but I don't see it as that big a deal. But I'm rather foul-mouthed.

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6637 [lbo-talk] Speaking of female candidates... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 5, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Catron wrote: > is there any reactionary > instinct on the left Palin's nomination has not dredged up? Huh? She's a right-wing twit whose purpose is to energize some of the most primitive elements in American society. Is it "reactionary" to point that out? Doug

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6638 [lbo-talk] Ronnie in a skirt! -- rank: 1000

One of the right-wing PR shops that fills my inbox announces this morning: > We May Have Found the Next Reagan and She Wears a Skirt > Sarah Palin embodies the spirit of the Reagan Revolution. My god, the bar is set so low these days. Reagan spent decades on the right-wing circuit, flacking for GE, serving as governor, running for president. This twit emerges out of nowhere, and suddenly she's the new Gipper.

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Date:	Fri Sep 5 08:17:31 PDT 2008

6639 [lbo-talk] Elephant memory ... -- rank: 1000

Fuck da police, as they say. On Sep 4, 2008, at 2:06 PM, sawicky at verizon.net wrote: > Why? > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: martin >> Sent: 09/04/08 01:55 pm >> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org >> Subject: [lbo-talk] Elephant memory ... >> >> Many years ago I suggested - as an lbo newbie - that the foremost >> task >> of the left would be to win the support of police. Doug responded, >> rather forceful ...

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6640 [lbo-talk] another modest proposal -- rank: 1000

Yeah. As it said at the top of the post: > <http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7533&IBLOCK_ID=35> > > Moscow Babylon > November 13, 2004 > > Gas Middle America > THE EXILE'S BLUE STATE SOLUTION > > By Mark Ames On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > > > Didn't Ames write this in 2004, or something very similar? > >> --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> >> wrote: >> >>> & ...

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6641 [lbo-talk] Palin's privacy versus her public stance -- rank: 1000

On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > On a related point , I just realized yesterday that the line of > some of the left that "the Democratic Party is the place where social > movements go to die" is completely wrong, completely contradicted by > the > facts. No, it's where they go to accommodate to the existing order. Not so minor point: the Christian right is a social movement. Not all social movements are "progressive." Doug

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Date:	Thu Sep 4 10:24:37 PDT 2008

6642 [lbo-talk] another modest proposal -- rank: 1000

On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:40 PM, rayrena wrote: > Jordan's point is a good one: what are the standards for > these gassings? I'll have to ask Mark. Perhaps he didn't think it all through when he was composing his rant. The devil is always in the details, isn't it? Doug

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6643 [lbo-talk] Palin's privacy versus her public stance -- rank: 1000

On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:34 PM, John Thornton wrote: > I didn't listen to the Dem convention so it may have been just as > awful, I don't know. It was pretty awful, in a treacly sentimental empty way. But it wasn't horrifying like the RNC. As Christian Parenti said to me this morning, the Reps are the politics of Thanatos. That doesn't make the Dems the party of Eros, but they don't exude the same sort of death rays. Yeah, I know how awful they can be, I don't need any lectures on that. I' ...

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6644 [lbo-talk] consistency -- rank: 1000

Gotta get back to watching The Daily Show: <http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/09/karl-rove-bill-oreilly-dick-morris.php >

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Date:	Thu Sep 4 09:43:15 PDT 2008

6645 [lbo-talk] another modest proposal -- rank: 1000

On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > What about all the votes Bush got in Blue states? Gas them, too? Read on! <http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7533&IBLOCK_ID=35> > We're sorry for the 30-40 percent who voted blue in the red states > -- just like we're sorry about Dresden and Hamburg, and lose sleep > over it every night. That is to say, if you stay there, you're no > longer innocent. Collateral damage in Fallujah is depressing-- but > ...

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