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6406 [lbo-talk] fresh punditry -- rank: 1000

Fresh punditry - leading index, false dawns, depression analogies, end of the finance premium? - at http://doughenwood.wordpress.com.

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Date:	Wed Apr 8 18:56:39 PDT 2009

6407 [lbo-talk] Joseph Massad gets tenure -- rank: 1000

Joseph Massad, whom the Zionists have vilified mercilessly, got tenure at Columbia. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 8 18:51:40 PDT 2009

6408 [lbo-talk] Christian Parenti responds -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > They would certainly be much smaller numbers, but "incredibly small" > I doubt, considering the existence of white, middle and upper class > criminals in the United States. The upper class criminals are often just guilty of exaggerated capitalist behavior - e.g., Bernie Madoff. It's sloppy to say that he was the same as a derivatives huckster, but they're clearly related. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 8 07:34:56 PDT 2009

6409 [lbo-talk] Christian Parenti responds -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > Nobody here is arguing with Angela Davis. They are arguing with > Carrol Cox. Yeah. Exactly. Years ago, I shared a speakers' platform with her. I was starstruck. I admire her a lot. And she's a very gracious, generous person too, in my brief experience. She'd never write a paragraph like the instantly deletable thing I quoted. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 8 04:49:04 PDT 2009

6410 [lbo-talk] Christian Parenti responds -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:35 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > i couldn't view that -- bad connex or something -- but it'd be nice > to have an explanation of what he meant by it. Can't speak for him, but it's pretty hard to read past a lede like this: > I somewhat disappointed in the lack of imagination on the part of most > responders to my proposal for elimination of the prison system. It > does > bear out, however, the failure of most to grasp what social > construction > mean ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 18:44:23 PDT 2009

6411 [lbo-talk] Christian Parenti responds -- rank: 1000

I forwarded Carrol Cox's manifesto about "Prisons and The Left" - the one that accused many of us of being brainless hacks - to Christian Parenti. His response was this link: <http://www.thebrunomovie.com/bruno-movie-trailer/>. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 17:48:30 PDT 2009

6412 [lbo-talk] Prisons and The Left -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2009, at 7:36 PM, John Thornton wrote: > We are far too cavalier in imprisoning people in the US as is shown > by our astronomical incarceration rate. I'll agree with that. And our sentences are way too long. You can get 5 years for stealing a car; the guy who stole mine should get only 1. Drugs should get 0, obviously. But you're pretty cavalier about armed robbery. Holding up a 7-11 with a gun is pretty serious stuff. Mugging a person on the sidewalk with a knife is too.

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 17:47:16 PDT 2009

6413 [lbo-talk] RIP, EFCA -- rank: 1000

[from The Note - what a bag of crap - why the question mark?] RIP, EFCA? The statement from Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark.: While I may not have been clear about my position in the past, I am stating today that I cannot support Employee Free Choice Act in its current form and I can t support efforts to bring it to Senate consideration in its current form. Or, not dead yet? Later she elaborated, leaving the door open for her to eventually get on board a revised version of the union-backed l ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 13:28:22 PDT 2009

6414 [lbo-talk] Prisons and The Left -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:57 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > i'd highly encourage listening to this entire talk from Davis. It's > only at the end where she gets at what abolitionism means, but it sure > as shit doesn't mean what everyone here is talking about. I sure as shit wasn't arguing with her. I was arguing with the anti- moral moralist Cox.

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 08:31:48 PDT 2009

6415 [lbo-talk] Prisons and The Left -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Matt wrote: > Re: the car thief and this false dilemma of "what shall we do?" how > about paying the car thief more than he earns jacking cars, to learn a > skill or trade? Yeah, that's a great idea, but some motherfucker stole my car anyway.

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 07:45:46 PDT 2009

6416 [lbo-talk] NY Times: In America, Labor Has an Unusually Long Fuse -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:57 AM, SA wrote: >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/weekinreview/05greenhouse.htm > > Where we find: > >> I actually believe that Americans believe in their political >> system more than workers do in other parts of the world, Mr. >> Gerard said. He said large labor demonstrations are often warranted >> in Canada and European countries to pressure parliamentary leaders. >> Demonstrations are less needed in the United States, ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 7 04:54:29 PDT 2009

6417 [lbo-talk] Abolition of prisons (Was: Angela...) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 6, 2009, at 9:11 PM, John Thornton wrote: > I object to robbery being included in the category of violent crimes > with rape, assault, and murder since it is not a crime committed > with intent the harm others as these crimes are. Someone points a gun or knife at you and asks for your money. That's not a violent crime?

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Date:	Mon Apr 6 20:34:33 PDT 2009

6418 [lbo-talk] Yves Smith: Treasury Trying to Defend Bank Gaming of Public-Private Partnership -- rank: 1000

On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Ira Glazer quoted: > Despite bank and Administration smoke-blowing to the contrary, the > problem with the so-called toxic assets on bank balance sheets is > NOT that > they cannot be priced, but that banks do not like the prices on > offer from > willing buyers. We have read anecdotes suggesting that the gap is as > big as > bank valuation 90-95 cents on the dollar versus market prices of 30 > cents, > but the typical example is bank hol ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 6 20:30:01 PDT 2009

6419 [lbo-talk] Prisons and The Left -- rank: 1000

On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Mike Beggs wrote: > I am surprised Doug > wants to see someone in jail for stealing a car Why not? What do you do with someone who steals a car? Talk to them nicely and ask them not to do it again? Man, leftists really are out of touch. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 6 20:23:00 PDT 2009

6420 [lbo-talk] Abolition of prisons (Was: Angela...) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: >> At least in this quote, she isn't talking about abolition of >> prisons... > > > In this one she is: Except she phrases it in a rather hedged fashion: > I want us to think about the possibility of getting rid of the > prison as the major institution of social control in this society.

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Date:	Mon Apr 6 14:38:12 PDT 2009