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631 [lbo-talk] Another Reed segment on Behind the News? -- rank: 1000

On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > I'd certainly like another Adolph Reed segment on Behind the News. Funny you should mention it - I've already booked one for next week. Doug

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632 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Sean Andrews wrote: > Actually, this seems to butt up against the fashionable bourgeois > delight for small plates and tapas. We need something as derided as a > side dish used to be. What am I, supermarket mayonnaise?

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633 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > // ravi wrote: > >> Why isn t expressing opinion political action? What is Capital I? Chopped liver? (*) >> >> ravi >> >> >> (*) man this thing is versatile and easy! :-) >> > > Best internet meme ever! (How do I google-bomb it?) It needs to be upscaled for our time. What am I, artisanal pate?

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634 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Marv Gandall wrote: > On 2012-02-17, at 9:55 AM, the Sage of Bloomington wrote: > >> I am interested in political action...while for the most >> part most others on the list are interested in political opinion. I see >> "aims," then as constrained by left political power, and I have relatively >> little interest in "what's wrong" or with "what sould be," questions which >> loom large in the realm of & ...

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635 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Tahir Wood wrote: > No, I just remembered what a parochial ghetto the American left is. I always forget that. The trouble with treating Americans as one's equal is that they actually take that as true. I asked Doug to unsub me but he told me do it yourself. Seeing as I don't take instructions very easily (and pretty much never from an American or an Israeli) I'm still waiting for him to do what I told him. Yeah, Americans live in a bubble, and we're often arrogant ...

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636 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > On 2/16/2012 10:18 AM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: >> Absolutely. For one thing, you have to struggle with reality...rather than just manipulating symbols. > > Any good writer constantly struggles with reality...by manipulating symbols. (What is Capital Vol. 1? Chopped liver?) Really. To appreciate manual labor we don't have to disparage the mental kind.

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637 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Verbal power is measured by skill in reading and writing. I have pointed > out several times that in principle someone with verbal skill of the author > of the Iliad could not necessarily pass a Freshman Comp Class, or even > achieve a satisfactory score on a college-entrance exam. Pope's Dunciad can > be seen as a lament at the demise of oral literacy. True, but no one is asking "Homer" to live in the 21st century USA e ...

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638 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > Last week on NPR--I landed there accidently, I swear--I heard some > reporter retort a racist-Christian tirade about how Islam discourages > (bans?) critical thinking by pointing out that that's not true because > Muslims hold college degrees at the same rate as Christians. That was > the only data point given for the existence of "critical thinking." Funny. The whole point of NPR is to disarm critical thinking, isn't it? E ...

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639 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > I think you are entirely too touchy about this, purposely not > acknowledging the carceral roots and intents of modern education. All I know I learned from Bowles & Gintis. Anyway, schools are contradictory, prisons are not. Some good stuff goes on in school. I had some awful teachers in my above-median suburban NJ system, mostly dull mediocre ones, and a few really good ones I learned a lot from. I was bored a lot of the time, but it at ...

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640 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:54 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Few Americans think in terms of systemic issues. It's always easier to blame individuals. When they think systemically, they think like this (being offered on WBAI as an $80 premium!): http://www.thrivemovement.com/

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641 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > BURN SHIT FUCK SCHOOL NO DADS > > And check out the most recent: > > don't worry, doug, i make jerk-off motions when you talk, too. I think that's an impostor. Malcolm changed his handle a few days ago because the old one was subpoenaed by the Manhattan DA. Or so he says - changed, I mean. The subpoena is real. Maybe he's the impostor too. Doug

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642 [lbo-talk] Rich prefer public schools? -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Don't forget that large numbers of private school students receive some form of tuition assistance. This is also true of "public" schools that charge, which is mostly at the post-secondary level. I bet for the few poor kids who get in, Yale is cheaper than CUNY - and especially Cal (which is slated to go up to, what?, $26,000 in a few years I was told in Riverside). Doug

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643 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Somebody Somebody wrote: > A past with free or affordable higher education That Bruce Franklin piece on all this is terrific: http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/priscult.html ... 4. But the main front in the culture wars was not literary. In April 1969, students sat in at City College of the City University of New York (CUNY), denouncing the university's discrimination against people of color and the poor in admissions policy. In response, the Board of Higher Educa ...

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644 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Sean Andrews wrote: > That was cavalier of me. my thought was, well if the > goal of education is general social uplift, and education is as under > attack as all other social institutions, maybe we're fighting a > rear-guard battle: better to just fight for expropriation then divide > the spoils into renewed social institutions if we ever win. Seems to me that the attack on the schools is of a piece with the attack on the working class. In the old da ...

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645 [lbo-talk] School Debate: Central Focus -- rank: 1000

On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Sean Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:12, Dennis Claxton <ddclaxton at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> For now though, the only thing worse than going to school is not going to >> school. > > I don't know if you've followed the conversations on Twitter with > Malcolm Harris, He's acting out an Oedipal drama on Twitter. (His father is a politically connected intellectual property lawyer in the Silicon Valley.) It's remarkable. S ...

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