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6106 [lbo-talk] let's argue about the cause of mental illness -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Andy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Carrol Cox<cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > >> Carrol: Do you actually think discussion on an e-mail list can answer >> these questions. It has been half-seriously joked that a diagnosis of >> "Borderline Personality Distorder" is a psychiatrist's way of saying >> "Fuck you!" to a patient. > > Hah! Yes. That always struck me as a clinical way of calling > som ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 12:05:39 PDT 2009

6107 [lbo-talk] class and classical music -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > Wagner called the Seventh "The epitome of the dance." Apotheosis, actually, which is a little different. > >> And Schoenberg? > > A successful ballet, "Pillar of Fire," was choreographed to > "Verklärte Nacht." You could choreograph to anything. I'm sure some experimental company has danced to a score provided by kitchen appliances. There's nothing particularly dance-y about anything that Cunni ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 09:03:35 PDT 2009

6108 [lbo-talk] Let's argue Ted Kennedy at least for a few more posts -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:21 AM, Michael Perelman wrote: > But Kennedy was a leader in deregulation, following Nader, in seeing > deregulation as consumer friendly. Yes. Nader's role in dereg deserves wider recognition.

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 08:12:18 PDT 2009

6109 [lbo-talk] Let's argue Ted Kennedy at least for a few more posts -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > Thank you Dennis P. I had completely forgotten Kennedy's 1980 campaign > against Carter and his support for de-regulation of trucking It was more than support - the whole movement for airline and trucking dereg practically originated from his staff. Greg Tarpinian, who used to be a Communist at the Labor Research Association, but who went on to become a fanboy of Little Jimmy Hoffa and then executive director of Change to Win, once ex ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 08:11:12 PDT 2009

6110 [lbo-talk] US not a private enterprise system -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > Assuming we want to be Marxist about this, isn't part of the > definition of capitalism that it uses wage labor, and so slave-based > economies are noncapitalist by definition? Slavery isn't really a capitalist form of labor domination, but the slave system of the South was embedded in a larger capitalist economy - they sold the cotton through New York merchants to English industrialists. Doug

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 07:24:03 PDT 2009

6111 [lbo-talk] US not a private enterprise system -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Bill Bartlett wrote: > the ownership class isn't all that smart by and large. > They are just people who haven't lost their money yet. ;-) Yeah. Buncha dumbshits. Can't imagine how they've held on to wealth and power for all these centuries. Guess their days are really numbered. Doug

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 07:09:28 PDT 2009

6112 [lbo-talk] class and classical music -- rank: 1000

On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:34 AM, Joanna wrote: > From where I sit, music begins with dance (Bach's gigues, gavottes, > etc., Mozart's minuets, etc.) and dies a slow but sure death the > greater its distance from dance. Beethoven is very un-dancey - Balanchine said you couldn't choreograph to his music because it was so complete in itself. And it just doesn't get any better than Beethoven. And Schoenberg? Even Bach's "dance" music is a long way from what people can cavort to. S ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 04:53:42 PDT 2009

6113 [lbo-talk] class and classical music -- rank: 1000

On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:40 PM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > Bernstein's Children's concerts both > operating within the logic of the celebrity conductor, and a > democratizing effort. I loved those things when I was a kid - had an enormous crush on Lennie. That kind of celebrity is wonderful. Doug

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Date:	Thu Aug 27 04:50:12 PDT 2009

6114 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

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Date:	Wed Aug 26 14:09:07 PDT 2009

6115 [lbo-talk] after SY retrocity... -- rank: 1000

On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Alan Rudy wrote: > Doug, do you know Wald? Interesting, interesting guy it seems > He has a new book out, How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'n' Roll, > looks like a > must. > http://www.elijahwald.com/beatlespop.html Don't know him, but I'm tracking him down. This does look interesting. Curious - he's the son of George Wald, the biologist who made a big splash with an anti-Vietnam War speech in the late 1960s. WBAI re- broadcast that thing a lot, as I r ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 26 08:58:32 PDT 2009

6116 [lbo-talk] Let's Argue About Sonic Youth's "Retro-necro reverence"! -- rank: 1000

On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Alan Rudy wrote: > the west coast punky/hippy crowd totally didn't > understand what SY were doing and they left the stage in a huff "We're gonna kill/the California girls..."

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Date:	Wed Aug 26 08:53:16 PDT 2009

6117 [lbo-talk] after SY retrocity... -- rank: 1000

On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Alan Rudy wrote: > So, here's the question: Why are there no Rock and Roll standards > like > there are in Jazz, Blues and Folk? There was a piece in last weekend's Financial Times by Elijah Wald arguing that it was all the doing of Mitch Miller, who ran Columbia's pop division starting in 1950. Well, Miller and technology - the development of the 45 and the LP. An excerpt: > The most influential of these record auteurs was Mitch Miller, an > oboe ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 26 08:33:10 PDT 2009

6118 [lbo-talk] Let's Argue About Sonic Youth's "Retro-necro reverence"! -- rank: 1000

On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Dwayne Monroe wrote: > But the one thing we haven't argued about is Sonic Youth. Let's > correct that oversight. I'm an enthusiast. Yeah, sometimes they're not as good as others, but basically I worship the ground they walk on. As X-Ray Spex might say, I am a cliche. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 25 13:47:38 PDT 2009

6119 [lbo-talk] Satoshi Tomiie recommendations -- rank: 1000

On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Andy wrote: > Been whiling away the compiling deadtime reading old starred threads > -- what Satoshi Tomiie should I listen to? I got a bunch of DJ mixes from Xtorrent. Mostly a few years old, but they go on for hours, and make me imagine I'm in some dark Euroclub with beautiful Eurotrash. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 25 08:08:15 PDT 2009

6120 [lbo-talk] (no subject) -- rank: 1000

On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > From a cognitive point of view, polls created thier own answers by > imposing > a particular interpretative framework on the comunicative > interaction. It > goes well beyond mere wording of questions, and involves social > status and > personalities of the interviewers and respondents, social context > where the > interview takes place, e.g. whether it is a telephone or face to face > interview, who else is present in ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 25 08:01:22 PDT 2009