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6001 [lbo-talk] Sam Gindin, ON THE REVIVAL OF THE WORKING CLASS -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Ted Winslow wrote: > It this is to be judged "terrific", isn't it necessary to explain > why "class" hasn't worked, as Marx claimed it would, to develop the > degree of enlightenment required to imagine and create socialism and > why, in spite of this, it might do so in the future? Class consciousness doesn't happen spontaneously. We've had dreadful unions in the U.S. that have done little or nothing to promote class consciousness. ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 16 09:06:53 PST 2009

6002 [lbo-talk] Gaidar dead -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > Though our gracious host doesn't consider himself an economist, DHen > is in fine shape. Quite buff when I saw him, Liza and Ivan in August > (the latter two are striking as well). Awww thanks! Four visits a week to the gym, though I can't say that my consumption habits are a model. Ain't no economist, though, as Dennis says. Doug

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Date:	Wed Dec 16 08:58:04 PST 2009

6003 [lbo-talk] the best friend Wall Street ever had (cont.) -- rank: 1000

News Alert 08:06 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 2009 Citigroup gains massive tax break in deal with IRS The IRS has issued an exception to tax rules for the benefit of companies including Citigroup. As a result, Citigroup will be allowed to retain $38 billion in tax breaks that otherwise would decline in value when the government sells its stake to private investors.

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Date:	Tue Dec 15 17:19:18 PST 2009

6004 [lbo-talk] Invertebrate tool use -- rank: 1000

On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:31 AM, farmelantj at juno.com wrote: > wouldn't Albert Einstein > have had the moral right to eat just about > anyone on this list "Just about"? So who's the Einstein equivalent?

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Date:	Tue Dec 15 08:37:14 PST 2009

6005 [lbo-talk] Sam Gindin, ON THE REVIVAL OF THE WORKING CLASS -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 10:00 PM, brad bauerly wrote: > http://www.socialistproject.ca/relay/relay28_gindin.pdf Sam Gindin is terrific. "The point however of emphasizing class is to get at a shared social relationship within capitalism that cuts across and potentially bridges other oppressions." Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 15 06:03:07 PST 2009

6006 [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012 -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > But the great powers were all against the Iraq adventure, unless we > stretch the definition of "great power" enough to include the UK. And, funnily enough, their oil companies have done pretty well in the auctions.

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 13:18:53 PST 2009

6007 [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012 -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Matthias Wasser wrote: > Perhaps being able to avert such a shutdown (presumably by cranky > regionals) > is precisely the purpose of such control? So the U.S. invaded Iraq at the cost of over $3 trillion because some future Ayatollah *might* shut the taps?

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 13:10:42 PST 2009

6008 [lbo-talk] Woolhandler analysis of Medicare buy-in -- rank: 1000

Well, Joe Lieberman killed that one! Funny. I understand the economics of Woolhandler's analysis, but I'm not so sure about the politics. Opponent Ben Nelson said the buy-in was a furtive way of getting to single-payer - more than the public option. Anthony Weiner, the New York Congressman who supports single- payer, says pretty much the same thing. That's why it's gotta go! Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 13:05:39 PST 2009

6009 [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012 -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:50 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > American planners are not idiots. (We went to school with most of > them.) They (essentially the same people through the last two > administrations, except for a slight neocon detour) would not have > poured people and money into their 21st-century Middle East wars out > of pique or madness. Their plans were not irrational -- just > vicious. Capitalism, imperialism, and geopolitics provide an > adequate account. And, ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 12:59:36 PST 2009

6010 [lbo-talk] Churchill to Krushchev: don't criticize Stalin -- rank: 1000

<http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6955086.ece> Don t criticise Stalin A firm word with Khrushchev Sir, Further to Sir Stuart Bell s letter ( Churchill and Stalin , Dec 5), in 1953 Nikita Khrushchev paid an official visit to the UK. The Prime Minister Anthony Eden, gave a dinner in his honour at No 10. Winston Churchill was one of the guests. He was then of advanced age and, during dinner, ate little and said less. After the meal the guests went to an adjoining ro ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 12:51:20 PST 2009

6011 [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012 -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:03 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > These were remarks from no more than five years ago and were clearly > meant to describe the current situation (as the reference to > renewable energy suggests). The "profits beyond the dreams of avarice" and "stupendous source of strategic power" quotes come from the late 1940s or early 1950s. He quotes them all the time. And to say that the U.S. would have the same interest in the Middle East if we converted ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 12:16:41 PST 2009

6012 [lbo-talk] "Latino" identity more prevalent on left than among actual Latinos -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > I have long had the impression that Latino is the hegemonic word in > California, but rarely comes up in conversation in New York, where > Hispanic seems the word of choice. You obviously don't spend much time with the PC left. Not only do they love the word, it's pronounced in the Spanish fashion, even by native English speakers. I'm reminded of Peggy Noonan's observation that back in the 1980s you could tell which side of the con ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 12:04:18 PST 2009

6013 [lbo-talk] life in America: sucks, getting worse -- rank: 1000

POLITICO Breaking News: ----------------------------------------------------- The White House is encouraging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D- Nev.) to cut a deal with Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), which would mean eliminating the proposed Medicare expansion in the health reform bill, according to an official close to the negotiations. Lieberman threw health care reform into doubt Sunday when he told Reid that he would filibuster the bill if it allowed Americans ages 55 to 64 to purchas ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 10:55:53 PST 2009

6014 [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012 -- rank: 1000

On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:59 AM, brad bauerly wrote: > Contrary to the belief by many, I don't think the US has really > seeks to use > its military to control an industry. Its history is more of the use > of > force to open up areas and industries for global capitalism, and to > protect > US investments, or even non-US capitalist investments. It does not, > usually, set up colonies or mercantilist systems. Its power has > always lied > in its use of force to open u ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 09:15:34 PST 2009

6015 [lbo-talk] the difference between D and R -- rank: 1000

<http://counterpunch.org/cockburn12112009.html> When it comes to invoking just wars Republican presidents can go through the motions, but they haven t got their hearts in it. Who needs to talk about justice as you drop high explosive and scrawl Death to Ragheads on the side of the bombs? When you want a just war, whistle up a Democrat who can talk with a straight face about installing democracy in the Balkans. After eight years of Bushian crudities the Empire needed an upgrade in i ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 14 08:34:26 PST 2009