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5881 [lbo-talk] CNN prints "Libertarian" ideas to save economy -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 2:47 PM, John Gulick wrote: > In the 1960's > did not the John Birchers and Posse Comitatus (and JN and PC > symps) think of themselves as "libertarians"? We sure did in the Party of the Right in 1971, when the great battle was between Traditionalists and Libertarians. (Reagan and Buckley were able to bridge the vast chasm between them, somehow, through personal charm and intellectual sleight of hand.) We thought the Birchers were vulgar, though (with the ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 11:58:04 PST 2009

5882 [lbo-talk] CNN prints "Libertarian" ideas to save economy -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:41 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Uh, no. I do believe that the dominant meaning of libertarianism in > the US > has long been bound to Randroids, Harry Browne, strict > constructionism, > right-wing tax resisters, etc. Yup. I was one in 1971. We barely knew from anarchists. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 10:49:21 PST 2009

5883 [lbo-talk] The Cramps! -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Wendy Lyon wrote: > Incidentally, what is it about Down Under that all the good > punk/garage bands were from Australia and all the good pop bands were > from New Zealand? Class? Australia is rude & working class, while NZ wants to be posh and Anglo? Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 10:39:54 PST 2009

5884 [lbo-talk] CFP: The Cramps -- rank: 1000

Begin forwarded message: > From: Davin Heckman <davinheckman at hotmail.com> > Date: February 6, 2009 1:09:22 PM EST > To: <cultstud-l at lists.comm.umn.edu> > Subject: [cultstud-l] Lux Interior/The Cramps > Reply-To: Cultural Studies <cultstud-l at lists.comm.umn.edu> > List-Archive: <http://lists.comm.umn.edu/mailman/private/cultstud-l> > > > > I am not anyone who studies the Cramps.... I just enjoy their > music. But I would be intere ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 10:18:01 PST 2009

5885 [lbo-talk] Stunned & Horrified -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > But isn't the Unite-Here somewhat more complicated, a clash of rival > hierarchies that didn't quite meld following their merger? Certainly > they have done a better job of keeping their dirty laundry out of > the papers than the SEIU folks. SR No doubt. But I'm told that something similar to the Stern-Rosselli dynamic is operating between Raynor and Wilhelm. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 10:15:16 PST 2009

5886 [lbo-talk] Stunned & Horrified -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:49 PM, John Gulick wrote: >> Of course, some of the people you're talking to -- here I'm >> thinking of the >> CNA -- are well-known liars and hypocrites. > > Well, I'm glad that at the very least these distressingly savage > labor wars > are being kept off the list. Hey, these are old hat. The new, fun stuff is SEIU vs. SEIU, and UNITE vs. HERE. A little birdie told me that UNITE is playing the Andy Stern role in the internal conflict - cent ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 10:00:17 PST 2009

5887 [lbo-talk] Stunned & Horrified -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Mark Rickling wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> > wrote: > >>>> Cutting backroom deals that workers barely know about vs. >>>> organizing >>>> openly. > >> Hmm, well I've been talking to people with similarly close vantage >> points, >> and to them I'm 100% right. So what's right & wrong in your account? > > Of course, some of the people you' ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 09:48:34 PST 2009

5888 [lbo-talk] Stunned & Horrified -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 11:44 AM, James Straub wrote: >> But they've self-destructed over some real issues. Centralized >> control >> vs. rank and file democracy. Renouncing the strike as antique vs. >> seeing it as the ultimate source of labor's (theoretical) power. >> Cutting backroom deals that workers barely know about vs. organizing >> openly. Seeing CEOs as your constituency vs. the working class. >> >> Am I wrong? > > > From my vantage p ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 09:08:41 PST 2009

5889 [lbo-talk] This is Your Pilot Slurring -- rank: 1000

On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Mike Beggs wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > >> Then he is either using "model" as a mere (and not too good) synony >> for >> "abstraction" or he is wrong. Models as used in economics havd no >> placve in Marx. >> > > If this is true, which I don't think it is, then it is so much the > worse > for Marx. What do you see as the essential difference ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 04:15:05 PST 2009

5890 [lbo-talk] How Politics Ruined My Life: Was Fuck Hope -- rank: 1000

On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:13 AM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > Well, that is certainly born true in minute after tedious minute of > Riefenstahl's film. Tedious is an interesting critique. Harold Bloom said somewhere that a great boredom is often a mask for a great anxiety. Is the boredom a defense against getting swept up into the triumph? And, if we didn't know how it all turned out, would it seem so boring? Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 6 04:09:31 PST 2009

5891 [lbo-talk] Review of Nick Cohen -- rank: 1000

On Feb 5, 2009, at 5:24 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > My review of Nick Cohen's 'What's Left? How the left lost its Way' > is published in Critique: Journal of Socialist Thought > > "Though he has got up many noses, there is a lot in Nick Cohen's > book What's Left? that I agree with. Cohen names the biggest change > in modern times-the collapse of the left as a social force-which is > at the root of most other reactionary symptoms he lists. He faces up > to the exha ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 5 18:22:35 PST 2009

5892 [lbo-talk] This is Your Pilot Slurring -- rank: 1000

On Feb 5, 2009, at 6:18 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Cue Doug's channeling of Marx on "rural idiocy" as well as his > mockery of > utopian, "small is beautiful" anti-modernists. Ha. Hardly have to. The image of months of solitude - or the companionship of the same small crew of fellow peasants - did all the work for me. Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 5 18:18:09 PST 2009

5893 [lbo-talk] Marxist models -- rank: 1000

Re: the bizarre claim that "models" are alien to Marx(ism), take a look at table 2.1 of Grossman's "breakdown" chapter: <http://www.marxists.org/archive/grossman/1929/breakdown/ch02.htm>. By the way, U.S. real GDP has increased by over 1,600% since the 1929 peak. Doug

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5894 [lbo-talk] unemployment? not so bad! -- rank: 1000

On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:39 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > REVIEW & OUTLOOK > JANUARY 31, 2009 > A Capital Strike > > Yesterday's fourth quarter GDP report came in less awful than > expected at a 3.8% decline at an annual rate, but take no solace > from that. The decline in the economy would have hit 5% if not for a > buildup in inventories that won't be sold any time soon. American > consumers and investors are on strike until they see some assurance > that the worst ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 5 12:53:23 PST 2009

5895 [lbo-talk] Changiness 2 -- rank: 1000

On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > Fuck this giving $8 trillion to Wall Street banks. > Just nationalize them under workers' control "Workers' control" is a fantasy, but nationalizing them isn't. It would be the most sensible option. But they want to do everything to avoid that. Doug

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