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5521 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Dorene Cornwell wrote: > And the NYT is never wrong about the circumstance of a massacre or the > existence of weapons of mass destruction or...? > > And the NYT never gets used as a tool of corporate or ... spin? Of course not. But it's mostly quite informative. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 15:01:47 PST 2009

5522 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

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5523 [lbo-talk] Waterboarding etc. -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > The whole US hegemony thing lasted for just over a decade and proved > to be pretty fragile, which makes me think that the US's supposedly > hegemonic status was more a figment of the imagination than it was > real. Huh? You mean all that post-WW II stuff with the IMF, the dollar-gold standard, and NATO was imaginary? Doug

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5524 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:06 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > "an account from the sectarian press" > > The International Council Correspondence, under its editor Paul > Mattick, wasn't sectarian, but a far-sighted critique of the > militarist dynamic of Keynes-style national recovery plans. Apologies. I tried reading Mattick's book Marx and Keynes once, and found it absolutely pointless. There's nothing necessarily militaristic about Keynes or Keynesianism - it's deep in the ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 13:23:26 PST 2009

5525 [lbo-talk] Waterboarding etc. -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:45:55 -0500 > Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> But there's something about the extremity of the way >> CC put it that makes it sound like the U.S. is the driving force >> behind everything bad in the world. There are plenty of other bad >> guys >> around. > > True. But wouldn't you agree that the US President is primus > inter pares (like the Archbishop ...

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5526 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Dorene Cornwell wrote: > Given that articles in the modern NYT sometimes have a tenuous > relationship > with what actually happened, I am inclined to approach thesea > ccounts with > skepticism: I bet the protests were more about food and conditions > than the > NYT let on. I think this partly because of the number of folks > disciplined > and partly becaue the food issue keeps coming up without any detail. > > That is not necessaril ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 12:49:10 PST 2009

5527 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:50 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > But the International Council Correspondence for March 1935, page 8, > reports, for example that rebellious boys in the South Mountain > Reservation, in New Jersey were put under military discipline by one > Captain Tobin, and the mutineers expelled. By god, proof that the New Deal was just fascism in drag! Here are a couple of reports from the capitalist hyena press. The NYT says they were kicked out of the CCC because they did ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 12:13:42 PST 2009

5528 [lbo-talk] Waterboarding etc. -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:46 PM, John Gulick wrote: > the reigning global hegemon, now in decline That's the way I normally see it, but it's amazing how hard the rest of the world has fallen in this financial/economic crisis. Our Treasury is having - so far - no trouble selling its bonds, unlike some other countries. The dollar's holding up - after weakening from about $1.25/euro in mid-2006 to almost $1.60 last summer, it's back to $1.30. For now - but the periphery of the eurozone is in tr ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 12:05:26 PST 2009

5529 [lbo-talk] Brockes does Roubini -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:16 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Let's suppose that a green tech SSA could do the job that you > propose here, which is debatable. Of course it's debatable. But redoing the entire energy and transportation systems, transforming existing buildings, and creating entire new industries and occupational categories could have quite a long-term kick. Could, of course, who knows? But the potential is as big as petroleum and autos, no? > Even cranky leftists like yourself (a ...

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5530 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:21 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > They reported that Roosevelt's regime was the closest to America > ever came to Fascism. Young people were dragooned into work camps, > and put under military discipline by the Civilian Conservation Corps. That's surreal. My father was in the CCC, and he loved it. His family was broke, living in an unheated house in Jersey City. Along came the CCC and he went off to the southwest - by choice! where did this "dragooned" ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 26 11:30:26 PST 2009

5531 [lbo-talk] TARP recipients ain't lending -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - January 26, 2009 Lending Drops at Big U.S. Banks Top Beneficiaries of Federal Cash Saw Outstanding Loans Decline 1.4% Last Quarter By DAVID ENRICH Lending at many of the nation's largest banks fell in recent months, even after they received $148 billion in taxpayer capital that was intended to help the economy by making loans more readily available. Ten of the 13 big beneficiaries of the Treasury Department's Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, saw their outstanding ...

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5532 [lbo-talk] Waterboarding etc. -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:39 PM, shag wrote: >> Hey, I said just the other day that BHO's office makes him the >> world's >> chief terrorist. But there's something about the extremity of the way >> CC put it that makes it sound like the U.S. is the driving force >> behind everything bad in the world. There are plenty of other bad >> guys >> around. >> >> Doug > > whew! I thought you were going off the deep end for a moment. > Question, & ...

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5533 [lbo-talk] still OK to subcontract torture, which is how it was always done -- rank: 1000

[posted by Lou Proyect to Marxmail] Counterpunch, January 26, 2009 How Obama's New Rules Keep Intact The Torture Ban That Doesn't Ban Torture By ALLAN NAIRN If you're lying on the slab still breathing, with your torturer hanging over you, you don't much care if he is an American or a mere United States - sponsored trainee. When President Obama declared flatly this week that "the United States will not torture" many people wrongly believed that he'd shut the practice down, when in f ...

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5534 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:28 PM, farmelantj at juno.com wrote: > Hence, the willingness > of people like Hannity to have Obama sit on > his hands while the economy sinks. Yeah, but these guys are looking kind of marginal these days. The real fight is over the share of the stimulus package given over to tax cuts. There's almost no chance that there won't be a large stimulus package, though. We've been watching Fox more lately, in part as an antidote to all the Obama fever, in part just ...

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5535 [lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:59 AM, B. wrote: > But there's a cottage industry on the right, and in the right- > Libertarian economics world where conservatives get their economic > ideas from, that under Hoover there was a "recession" which hovered > around for 4 years or so 'til FDR took office in March, 1933 -- then > FDR exacerbated the "recession" into full-blown Depression. FDR's > attempts to solve the problem aggravated it. He should have sat on > his h ...

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